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Bullika Warnings : 1 Ministerial

Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 3025 Location: World
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| Prob a load of rubish but I was told that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus population is growing faster than that of Republic of Cyprus and in a few generations the island will have a 50/50 spilt of Greek Cypriot's to Turkish Cypriot's? |
not since talat has created obstacles for turks and kurds to settle in northern cyprus. under denktash, we would sometimes get 6000 settlers in just one night. now hes put a stop to this practice. |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1734 Location: Canada
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It is very, possible that the demographics of the island will change significantly, especially with Turkey, because it is so close, and the cultural differences are fewer, to these emigrants' other choices. Also, the relationships that Turkophones in Cyprus will cultivate will include the interests of other Muslim people, which will further stimulate interest in immigration.
But the demands for potable water are already stretched to the point where it is rationed, and so our success, at providing a state, for the peaceable enjoyment of its' citizens, which allows for our great potential, is linked, both being the most basic of our needs.
If we assume, that the age of machines is over, that truly, we have entered a new age, whereby machines are built, without limitation, because of our abilities to process the information, which leads to their realisation, then water is not a problem. The huge advantages for us to be inclusive as a people, to other people, invites so much good from the contemporary world, (as well as the crime, and displays of greed, that come with it), that it is most prudent to be a leader in these matters of sustainability. If we do not want to be overwhelmed by a reality, where war is over, not just in our tiny state, but in all the states at war, to which we are the geographic center, then our constitution must be made resilient, to allow for our preeminence, in societies emerging, with needs like our own, to which our help will be greatly needed.
I would like to know, if you are living in Cyprus right now, while you are looking out your window, have things remained unchanged, even if you don't want them to change, as it is with the Dutch, can you imagine things unchanged, when there is accord? What will these changes be?
Also, someone, please post a map to which we can refer, thank-you. |
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city
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3369 Location: Larnaca area
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repulsewarrior
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| Thank-you, city, as you probably know you are talking to a computer lizard, not a dinosaur, but only able to do e-mail and typing so far, the map is a good one, is it possible to have another, where we can read the village names? And one which provides detail about its geography? |
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cannedmoose Warnings : 4 Moderator

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city
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
| Thank-you, city, as you probably know you are talking to a computer lizard, not a dinosaur, but only able to do e-mail and typing so far, the map is a good one, is it possible to have another, where we can read the village names? And one which provides detail about its geography? |
well, repulsewarrior, we were having that thought already at an earlier stage, but the problems are:
1. find one that shows both Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot names of the places
2. find one that is detailed enough
3. and foremost: find one that we can use without violating any copyrights attached to it
Even if we find one on the net, due to point 3 we can neither upload it here nor link directly to it.  |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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| erm, just for the record...i have a topic in section 'tranlation threads' where people can post the greek/turkish names of villages....pre 74. |
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repulsewarrior
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Thanks for the map, moose, and I am looking at it closely.
If we were to install Cantons to this geography, what circles would they make around which villages, and/or towns? I imagine that the very tip, at the Apostle Andrew Monestary, would be one, and its jurisdiction would go as far as the wild goats it supports roam. |
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repulsewarrior
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repulsewarrior
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Imagine a bag of jewels, ten to seventeen of them. Hold them in your hand and toss them over the map of Cyprus. Call them cantons
Those that fall in the south, are Turkish Cypriot. Similarly, those that fall in the north will be "Greek".
Allow for the right of return, and for the resettlement of displaced persons, and all that is lacking is constitutional reform, and the creation of a Greek Cypriot state, equal to the exisiting Turkish Cypriot state, able in providing service to their citizens in their territory and these cantons.
Your comments please. |
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repulsewarrior
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'Normal" growth will provide for at least half of this population.
http://www.financialmirror.com/more_news.php?id=5483&type=st
Good news in Africa, and in the Middle East will encourage great mobility of these people. Europe and our inclusion in the EU will provide more immigration. The demographics will surely change. There is a great moment in our near future, and if it is a success it will head in this direction. |
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repulsewarrior
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What has a population of over a Billion in the year 2107? If you thought of the USA then you are correct; only three times larger than it is today.
Demographics will surely change on this island, Cyprus. With peace in the Middle East and greater stability in Africa, we can expect an explosion in its population.
Interestingly, we must choose our future, today.
So I ask you, where would another 3 million people live, 100 years from now? Who do you expect them to be? Which small towns will grow to become our cities? |
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia
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| I wonder what Thomas Malthus would be saying on this one had he been alive today. |
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repulsewarrior
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| Malthus would say it is a natural evolution, because of the island's geographic position. Do we have enough water, the most precious resource, for this population to grow, without misery or conflict? That is an important question. Denial of what is evident will only serve to exacerbate our 'problem'. |
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repulsewarrior
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The population of Cyprus in the Government controlled area was estimated at 789.300 at the end of 2007, recording an increase of 1,4% from the previous year.
According to data released by Cyprus Statistical Service (CyStat), the population in the district of Nicosia was 310.900 at the end of 2007, in Famagusta 43.700, in Larnaka 131.900, in Limassol 226.700 and in Paphos 76.100. A 69.9% of the population resided in the urban areas of Cyprus, whereas a percentage of 30.1% resided in rural areas. |
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyprus_and_World_News/11919
...as a desert land with global warming, think, because in a hundred years we will be three times bigger, naturally. and a vision for faster growth is even more realistic, if we are to be an oasis. |
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