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Cyprus: EU and domestic issues :: Mediterranean Monk Seal

repulsewarrior — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:28:38 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Subject: Mediterranean Monk Seal
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:28 am (GMT 3)

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The Mediterranean monk seal is the most endangered pinniped species worldwide and is currently on the brink of extinction. Although formerly found all over the Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea and northwest African coast, the species' numbers have now been reduced to perhaps less than 400.

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The remaining individuals are found in remote and undisturbed areas around the Mediterranean Sea and northwest African coast. The most important populations are located in Mauritania / Western Sahara, Greece and Turkey, while small numbers are also present in Morocco, Algeria, Libya, the Portuguese Desertas Islands (Madeira), Croatia and Cyprus.

http://www.pinnipeds.org/species/medmonk.htm

...watch for them, thank-you.
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: The Orams have won their case

repulsewarrior — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:10:47 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:10 am (GMT 3)

the Orams protested, a
matter of plight. facts on
the ground was a plea
to be heard, on the ground.

what was the case, not
property, its ownership unquestionable
but passage, the trespass
an issue sponsors pressed
this far. the results are monumental
for plunderers worldwide
a signal, without consent
there is no issue to plea

...so it is a victory for all Cypriots
it is a victory for all Mankind, indeed
for all Humanity because what is
a Universal Right, prevails.
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: The Orams have won their case

erolz — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:34:03 GMT

Author: erolz
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:34 am (GMT 3)

I am just wondering what the Orams case has 'achieved'.

If what is has achieved is recognition in courts outside the Republic of Cyprus that pre 74 Greek Cypriot owners remain legal owners of property in the North, then that was already the case with the ECHR rulings that came before the Orams case.

Certainly it has achieved damage to the sale of property in the North to those with EU assets. Maybe this will help the propsects for a solution but it just as easy to imagine that it has and will worsen them.

We need a political solution. These limited private civil actions are just that, limited private civil actions and ones that do not result in any return or resolution even re the indivdual property concerned let alone in general terms.
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General Chat :: RE: WOW!

erolz — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:27:19 GMT

Author: erolz
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:27 am (GMT 3)

Aug 2010 will be five years I think.
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General Chat :: WOW!

xenos2fan2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:41:05 GMT

Author: xenos2fan2
Subject: WOW!
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:41 am (GMT 3)

Holy Crap! Has this forum been up 5 years already?

General Chat :: RE: Me a mod?

xenos2fan2 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:39:20 GMT

Author: xenos2fan2
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:39 am (GMT 3)

Crash Test Dummy wrote:

how have you been sir?

That would be a loooooong story. But I guess 'm well. Moving back to Turkey this summer. How have you been?

Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: The Orams have won their case

Crash Test Dummy — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:15:55 GMT

Author: Crash Test Dummy
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:15 pm (GMT 3)

I don't understand your question/point Erol.
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General Chat :: RE: Me a mod?

Crash Test Dummy — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:15:17 GMT

Author: Crash Test Dummy
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:15 pm (GMT 3)

how have you been sir?
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General Chat :: RE: Me a mod?

xenos2fan2 — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:41:16 GMT

Author: xenos2fan2
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:41 pm (GMT 3)

You got my backing as well. Good to see you again Crash.

Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: GOODWILL FORWARD

repulsewarrior — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:48:36 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:48 am (GMT 3)

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Sending a message of peace to the younger generations
January 31, 2010
By Helen Christophi

PANICOS Neocleous, author of the 2009 book, The Ignored: 1974, which presents 50 interviews with former Greek Cypriot soldiers about their experiences fighting during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, is preparing a new volume of interviews, this time including accounts from Turkish Cypriot and mainland Greek and Turkish participants and their families.

Neocleous says the purpose of his first book was to demonstrate how the Greek government and military �betrayed Cyprus�, as well as to highlight the behaviour of the Turkish military and the United Nations during the war. And more than anything, Neocleous wanted to show how the �Cypriot government ignored its own Greek Cypriot fighters�. But he characterises his current collection as a tool for �sending a message of peace in Cyprus� to the country�s younger generations.

�They are the stories of Greek and Turkish Cypriots,� says Neocleous. �All I meet, the people who suffered [during the invasion], speak of peace. We will try to use this as a message for the young people to work for peace.�

Neocleous has collected nine accounts thus far, but the story of Soyat Kafatar, the sole survivor of an 84-person massacre of Turkish Cypriots in the village of Tochni by EOKA B forces in the summer of 1974, stands out as an example of the book�s purpose. Soyat, his father, and the other males of the village were arrested, bussed to the fields outside Agia Phila, and shot dead. All except Soyat, who survived by virtue of his father�s brains having splattered onto Soyat�s face when he was shot in the head, and the killer skipping over Soyat on the assumption that the detritus in which he was covered was his own.

Soyat played dead until the soldiers left the field to fetch bulldozers to dispose of the freshly-killed corpses. He escaped into the woods and eventually settled in the village of Bouno in the occupied north of the island.

At the end of the interview Neocleous asks Soyat to characterise his feelings toward Greek Cypriots: �Love,� responds Soyat, followed by a resolve to �not blame all Greeks for the evil done�.

Soyat�s story is not the only one in Neocleous� books that has resulted in forgiveness between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. An account in The Ignored tells how a Turkish Cypriot soldier, Fat�hi Akinci, fired what should have been a fatal bullet into the head of a Greek Cypriot fighter, Yiannis Maratheftis, led to their meeting 35 years later and formed a warm friendship.

Now, schools are inviting Neocleous� Greek and Turkish Cypriot interviewees to speak to students about peace. They made one presentation in Limassol last December and are scheduled to make a second presentation in the same city next month.

�The majority of young people do not know what happened in Cyprus,� Neocleous asserts. �Many of the pupils are hearing this for the first time, and from those who lived it, from the people who suffered in the war. I want to leave the truth for future generations.�

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31/01/2010
Steve comments:
Erden, there are plenty of Greek Cypriots who acknowledge 2 sides to every story & who know that there were wrongs commited by both sides in this conflict. Both sides still suffer from the tragedy of 1974.

31/01/2010
Erden comments:
Finally, a Greek Cypriot who acknowledges that there is 2 sides to every story and Greek Cypriots were not as innocent as they like to believe. Well done

31/01/2010
Phil Read comments:
This is a great initiative. However perhaps it should be todays politicians and the Archbishop that the initiative is aimed at.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/sending-message-peace-younger-generations/20100131

...truly, an advance in the way we look at ourselves; most hopeful.
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International News Discussion :: RE: Gaza: Humanitarian situation worst since 1967

repulsewarrior — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:48:26 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:48 pm (GMT 3)

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"My parents were part of the historic movement in which there is a heavy dose of redemption and messianism," says Pachnik. "They thought they were coming back to the land of the Bible, without being aware that there were people here. The biggest sin of the first generation of settlers was not the return to Judea and Samaria; the return to the land of our forefathers is not a sin. We returned to a place to which we have a historic belonging. The story of the People of Israel has much more to do with Gush Etzion than with Tel Aviv. But the big mistake for which we are now paying the price is that we did not dare, we did not agree, we were unable to look around and say: there are other people here. You have to know how to live with them and how to accept them."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1144264.html

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Not all settlers and Palestinians want each other to disappear

By Linoy Bar-Gefen and Meron Rapoport

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International News Discussion :: RE: Gul, President of Turkey, elected by parliament today

repulsewarrior — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:30:13 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:30 pm (GMT 3)

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Indictment verifies Cage museum plan with concrete evidence

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The indictment puts forward several pieces of evidence for a frightening planned act of terror of the junta nested within the Naval Forces Command against young students visiting the Ko� Museum. According to the plan, several blocks of TNT and other explosives placed at the bottom of a submarine exhibited at the museum would be detonated while a large group of students was visiting the museum...

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-200064-cage-probe-deepens-with-poyrazkoy-indictment.html

excuses, and directing blame at others, seems to be a normal tactic from the generals. i especially like the idea that a large cache of explosives were forgotten in a submarine, now a museum piece...
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: GOODWILL FORWARD

repulsewarrior — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:49:41 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:49 am (GMT 3)

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Progress made at Cyprus talks ahead of Ban visit
NICOSIA-The island�s two leaders have achieved significant progress on the governance issue during Friday�s meeting, UN envoy Alexander Downer told journalists.

�The leaders have left the meeting feeling positive and there will be a bit more to say next week when the UN Secretary-General is here and the leaders meet with him on Monday afternoon,� he also said.

Friday�s meeting concluded the second round of UN-led intensive talks, as part of their effort to find a negotiated settlement to the Cyprus problem.
Asked whether the chapter on governance has been concluded or not, the UN official reiterated that the leaders will have more to say about this on Monday afternoon.

�So, I am not going to go into any of the details here�, he added.
On the future of the peace process, Downer said that the leaders are going to talk about future programming during the meeting on Monday with Ban Ki-moon.

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/main/92,1,283,0,5523-.aspx

Food and Drink :: RE: CYPRIOT cookery lessons!

peter2travel — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:47:58 GMT

Author: peter2travel
Subject: Really great videos i have never seen such a hilarious video
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:47 am (GMT 3)

Really great videos i have never seen such a hilarious video
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: The Orams have won their case

erolz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:37:46 GMT

Author: erolz
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:37 am (GMT 3)

Crash Test Dummy wrote:

Erol the fact they cant use the house is irrelevant.

Its their house. If for one reason or another they cant access it then its still theirs.

I understand that CTD but that was the case before was it not ?
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: Introduction

repulsewarrior — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:16:20 GMT

Author: repulsewarrior
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:16 am (GMT 3)

cheers!, mr p.

welcome.
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Cyprus problem discussion :: RE: The Orams have won their case

Crash Test Dummy — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:42:26 GMT

Author: Crash Test Dummy
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:42 am (GMT 3)

Erol the fact they cant use the house is irrelevant.

Its their house. If for one reason or another they cant access it then its still theirs.
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Cyprus problem discussion :: Introduction

peter2travel — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:29:55 GMT

Author: peter2travel
Subject: Introduction
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:29 pm (GMT 3)

Hi every body I'm a new member i didn't find the introduction thread so so started a new . I've been looking around the site for quite some time and I liked what I saw so I decided to join.

General Chat :: Levels in Spirituality

dattaswami — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:18:36 GMT

Author: dattaswami
Subject: Levels in Spirituality
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:18 pm (GMT 3)

Levels in Spirituality

Miracles are just fundamental level of elementary schools, which are widely spread everywhere, by the wish of God. Even evil people can do these miracles by black magic. The idea behind such wide covering range of miracles is that these miracles are useful in converting atheists into theists. For such elementary work, human incarnations or professors are not necessary.

The next level is Jnana Yoga, which is the level of high schools. The high schools are lesser in number than elementary schools because only some converted theists start the enquiry about the subject (Jnana Yoga) of the unimaginable God, since His existence was indirectly proved through the unimaginable miracles and He is the source of the unimaginable power behind the miracles.

The next higher level is formation of theoretical love (Bhakti Yoga) or devotion on the Lord since a few of the scholars of God get this and this level is the level of colleges.

The ultimate highest level is practical devotion (Karma Yoga) or service to God, which is the level of University and is very rare since a few of devotees only can become servants of God through practical sacrifice of work and fruit of work. The scientific analysis of divine knowledge (Jnana Yoga) is pervading all the four levels as the basic torchlight. In the first level, the existence of God is accepted. In the second level, the existence of unimaginable God is accepted.

In the third level, the representatives of God like statues in human form are worshipped by words and mind to get rid of ego and jealousy towards human form. In the fourth level, the decision of the final conclusion of the intellectual analysis results in detecting the contemporary human incarnation and involve in a practical service in His mission.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

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General Chat :: RE: Free Will?

dattaswami — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:17:38 GMT

Author: dattaswami
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:17 pm (GMT 3)

repulsewarrior wrote:

Humans are one part of a Universal System, which in our frailty we can only hope to embrace through dying, and our return to where we came from.

...in my mind if we are created in an image of our maker, the Dna science has found has a reach that is closer to this One than 'us'. we may represent through our reason a failsafe, which nature must survive to prove its worth formulatically; our distinction has always been a repugnant impulse to plunder.

cheers!, sir; and, welcome!

You are admitted in the college and your main aim is to get the degree. If you fail in the exams your main aim is upset, therefore, you should not get tension. Similarly you should have tension if the main aim of the human life i.e., to achieve the grace of God, fails. Except that, all this family life and relationships are only extra curricular activities. In your college life, a game is conducted as an extra curricular activity. Suppose you are defeated in it. You should take it sportively and not seriously, because that is not the main aim. Therefore take everything in life sportively, because, this life is not the ultimate aim. If family life only is the goal, even animals and birds have their family lives. The speciality of human life is to think and achieve the grace of God.
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