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brother Warnings : 3 Site Admin

Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8934 Location: London/Cyprus
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“YOU KNOW me well. You know my history; may strengths and my weaknesses.” This was how President Tassos Papadopoulos closed his televised speech, last Monday night, announcing that he would seek re-election.
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It is clear that Christofias’ insinuation was related to the activities of the current president, who had played a leading role back then, as deputy leader of the clandestine Akritas group.
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| In short, the document destroyed the myth about the “Turkish mutiny”, which our leadership cultivated for years, and revealed the truth in the most emphatic way about the horrific terrible events that sealed Cyprus’ fate. Apart from the document, today there are also testimonies, like the one by former officer Chrysafis Chrysafi, who revealed that six months after the establishment of the new Republic work on the setting up of the organisation had begun. He also said that, three months before December 1963 (when the inter-communal conflict began), he had been informed by a leading member of the Akritas group that armed conflict with the Turkish Cypriots was imminent. |
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Chrysafis also revealed that the organisation had placed a bomb at the statue of EOKA hero, Marcos Dracos, so it could blame the clandestine Turkish Cypriot organization TMT and create a climate of hatred towards the Turks, a few days before the clashes.
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Clerides said: “I believe that most of the work for the preparation of this document was done by Tassos Papadopoulos rather than [Interior Minister Polycarpos] Yiorkadjis… Yiorkadjis, on many occasions when he wanted to draft something, because he did not have the legal knowledge, would call Tassos, which was why he made him deputy leader.”
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| It has often been written that the author of the Akritas plan was Papadopoulos. .He has never denied this |
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| He told the Khaleej Times in an interview published on September 4, 2004: “From 1963 to 1974 how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is none.” |
Full article here
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=33896&cat_id=1
I challenge Tpap to deny these, i also ask that kifeas reports me to Tpaps people for what i have posted and at the same time im wondering if kifeas and his terrorist turned leader are going to take action against the author of this article but i guess they would have to be lies for them to have such a recourse.  |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2180
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2180
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none were killed ?
yeah all right , we have to believe this because tpap says so , don't think so , he is a murderer or terrorist , what ever you wnat to say , he is in DENIAL of the crimes he and his men comitted against the second class citezen ie the turkish cypriot |
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-mikkie2-
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 603
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| He told the Khaleej Times in an interview published on September 4, 2004: “From 1963 to 1974 how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is none.” |
Brother,
Why are you so obsessed with this?
Is this your conclusive proof that papadopoulos is a liar and a terrorist and the cause of all the stalemate and problems in Cyprus?
I suggest you perhaps deflect some of your obsession to Turkish Cypriot and Turkish politicians who are euqally stupid/liars/idiots/fools etc etc. |
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cypezokyli
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Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344
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this has been discussed numerous times, and the source remains always the same - loucas charalambous.
his opinion is well known...no point to open new threads with to discuss the same thing again and again |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1973 Location: Canada
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Tpap is the President, and there are missing and dead Cypriots of Turkish origin for which the Justice implied is denial.
If you had been living at the time, and for those of us who remember, at least in my village, we lived as neighbours, and cooperators, at that time, already hundreds of years.
Modern geo-politics changed all this. Swept up by the Cold War this leadership continues to play by its rules. But, the end is near because few remain, and the world's problems demand that we act together, for its very survival. |
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depurple Warnings : 1 Ministerial

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2880 Location: Australia
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And WHO isnt?
Denktash?
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Clerides?
cheers! |
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stavrizatz
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 952 Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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brother Warnings : 3 Site Admin

Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8934 Location: London/Cyprus
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My obsession is with cyprus and what will be good for her and all her people, Tpap has been the worst thing that has happened in cyprus for the last 50 years and as president of the Republic of Cyprus he has pushed the cyprus problem BACKWARDS not fowards, i post this to open the eyes of the many newer members who have joined and those that just read and do not post, im my mind the re-election of this terrorist will seal the partition of the island hence my ethical duty to inform all of what and whom they are voting for.
Also i would like to add that loucas charalambous and Alkan Caglar are the same kind of person that tell it as it really is despite the threats to their well being from angry people like kifeas, GR etc. and i would say its high time people pay attention to what they are saying as if they were lies these rich and powerful people would have taken them to court for slander etc. by now.  |
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Mete Warnings : 3 Deputy

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston
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In my mind the re-election of this terrorist will seal the partition of the island hence my ethical duty to inform all of what and whom they are voting for.
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Even though I agree that reelection of Papadopoulos is worse than, say Christofias or Kasulidis, I don't think that partition will be sealed just because of him. I'm actually excited about Christofias being elected and then I'll sit back with my pop-corn and watch the drama episode untold. It'll be a tragey/comedy to watch the so called "leftists" on both sides blame each other since there won't be a Denktash or Papadopoulos to blame anymore. That's mainly why I want Christofias to win. |
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city
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3419 Location: Larnaca area
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| Guys, can you please stop insulting each other and return to the level-headed discussion I know you are capable of! |
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Mete Warnings : 3 Deputy

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston
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Even though ideally I should have disdained replying to kids like you, who think they can pick up a fight with Kifeas; I feel the need to remind you that unlike desolate fellows like your self, I am neither a Mussolini or a Nazi soldier, nor a Turkish one, to be in need or to have ever been taught or made to “goose–step!”
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So I'm the kid in this situation because I was the one "maturely" talking about fat asses and such! I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone but I'm not going to let people like you ruin this forum. If you don't have anything constructive to say, go ahead with your daily routine and leave us alone. That's all I'm saying! |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1973 Location: Canada
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Mete talk to me or the others. If Kifeas bothers you tell us, don't dwell because that is too easy, ...and all of us need to find a way, regardless.
Kifeas, or eric dayi can't ruin this forum, it is their antithesis which will ruin it if they allow these emotions to be expressed through their own acts. |
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stavrizatz
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 952 Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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Brother wrote:
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My obsession is with cyprus and what will be good for her and all her people, Tpap has been the worst thing that has happened in cyprus for the last 50 years and as president of the Republic of Cyprus he has pushed the cyprus problem BACKWARDS not fowards, i post this to open the eyes of the many newer members who have joined and those that just read and do not post, im my mind the re-election of this terrorist will seal the partition of the island hence my ethical duty to inform all of what and whom they are voting for.
Also i would like to add that loucas charalambous and Alkan Caglar are the same kind of person that tell it as it really is despite the threats to their well being from vicious people like kifeas, GR etc. and i would say its high time people pay attention to what they are saying as if they were lies these rich and powerful people would have taken them to court for slander etc. by now. |
I don't particularly fancy papadopoullos but I am somehow offended calling him a terrorist. When Klerides was president you were propably saying the same thing. Clerides is also one of the authors of Akritas Plan.
As for GR and Kifeas they have their opinions. Everyone has their opinions, when are we going to accept that we have two different narratives of what have happened and listen to each other and learn from each other? |
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brother Warnings : 3 Site Admin

Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8934 Location: London/Cyprus
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My obsession is with cyprus and what will be good for her and all her people, Tpap has been the worst thing that has happened in cyprus for the last 50 years and as president of the Republic of Cyprus he has pushed the cyprus problem BACKWARDS not fowards, i post this to open the eyes of the many newer members who have joined and those that just read and do not post, im my mind the re-election of this terrorist will seal the partition of the island hence my ethical duty to inform all of what and whom they are voting for.
Also i would like to add that loucas charalambous and Alkan Caglar are the same kind of person that tell it as it really is despite the threats to their well being from vicious people like kifeas, GR etc. and i would say its high time people pay attention to what they are saying as if they were lies these rich and powerful people would have taken them to court for slander etc. by now.  |
"Brother," no matter how much your fat ass will try to discredit me, the only result will precisely be the opposite! |
You do a good enough job of discrediting yourself and also making yourself look silly at the same time.
Beyond that have a warning for a personal insult.  |
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