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brother
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ANKARA - Turkish Daily News
Greek Cypriots are blocking the resumption of U.N.-sponsored talks launched in July by Ibrahim Gambari, who heads the U.N. political affairs department, between the Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders on the divided island, sources said.
The recent move by Michael Möller, head of the U.N. Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP), to restart talks between Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos has failed due to Greek Cypriot stubbornness.
Sources said Möller asked the parties involved last week to start preparations for a new initiative to resolve the Cyprus deadlock to be launched in 2007 under U.N. auspices. The proposal foresees a meeting between Talat and Papadopoulos within two weeks. After the meeting the leaders are supposed to inform the new U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon in order to launch the new initiative for settlement in February 2007.
The Turkish side welcomed the proposal, while the Greek Cypriots rejected it, sources added.
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cypezokyli
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| i ll check what the media on this side say, but i assume that they accuse the other side... |
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brother
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| i ll check what the media on this side say, but i assume that they accuse the other side... |
I think on this occasion they would be hard pushed to make that believable but never say never.
For me it seems that Tpap is reluctant to meet with anyone as he probably feels he is in the driving seat at the moment and is reckoning on the EU to put the squueze on Turkey so he can get his demands met but this to me is a false sense of security and it is being noted the way Tpap and his cronies are dealing with the issue by the international community which imo will ultimately only lead to a dead end. |
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pg
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| IF talks become scheduled for February, I suspect that Turkey will say "stop talking about the ports - it will be part of the UN talks"... |
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brother
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Greeks Impede New UN Process in Cyprus Again
By Suleyman Kurt, Ankara
Tuesday, October 31, 2006
zaman.com
The administration of Southern Cyprus is insisting on not beginning talks with the Turkish side despite the agreement reached, with great effort, last summer with United Nations Under Secretary-General for Political Affairs Ibrahim Gambari.
The Greek side opposed U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan’s special envoy for Cyprus Michael Moller’s ideas to begin reconciliation talks. Greek Cyprus, eager to have the issue discussed on European Union territory to take advantage of on the upcoming Nov. 8 progress report on Turkey, will not commence the talks agreed to by both sides on July 8 this year.
The United Nations recommended that the committees formed to act as a bridge between the two parties start working immediately and that Tassos Papadopoulos, president of Greek Cyprus, and Mehmet Ali Talat, president of Turkish Cyprus, come together at once.
The Turkish side stated that it was ready to support the U.N.’s approach. However, the Greek side once again came out against the U.N.’s proposal. The proposal envisaged the coming together of Talat and Papadopoulos to begin talks again in a week or two.
Had the U.N. proposal been accepted, the two leaders were going to have a meeting in February 2007 with a special agenda to take control of the committee. Another part of the unaccepted plan would have been to call on the newly elected Secretary General of the U.N. Ban Ki-Moon to, “begin the reconciliation process.”
Experts involved note that the latest proposal was declined by the Greek side because they thought it was not in support of a solution within the framework of the U.N.
The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) has been approaching all the proposals made by the U.N. in a most positive manner and the administration stated a few times that they were ready to begin the works of the committee. The works of the technical committee were well-received by Ankara, who feels it could contribute to, “a comprehensive solution to the problem.”
U.N. Under-Secretary for Political Affairs Ibrahim Gambari sent President M. Ali Talat a letter on the issue at the end of last March which contained a list of the technical committee that got the consent of both parties in Cyprus.
Both sides were set to begin the committee’s work on issues such as health, water, environment, waste management, money laundering, crime prevention, traffic security and humanitarian cooperation. The suggestion for committee work had initially been introduced by Ankara and Northern Cyprus and was bolstered by them throughout.
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Crash Test Dummy
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| Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos |
Its stupid statements like that which shows why Cyprus will never move forward.
Although people may disagree, according to the world (apart from Turkey) TPap is the elected leader of cyprus so therefore he is Cypriot leader not Greek Cypriot
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Bullika
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| Crash Test Dummy wrote: |
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| Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos |
Its stupid statements like that which shows why Cyprus will never move forward.
Although people may disagree, according to the world (apart from Turkey) TPap is the elected leader of cyprus so therefore he is Cypriot leader not Greek Cypriot
Just my 2p |
i know but he doesnt exactly act like a cypriot leader, does he out of all honesty. |
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RudeGal
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| Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos |
Its stupid statements like that which shows why Cyprus will never move forward.
Although people may disagree, according to the world (apart from Turkey) TPap is the elected leader of cyprus so therefore he is Cypriot leader not Greek Cypriot
Just my 2p |
Don't like the way one's politics means the other side always demoted. What crap. They are both presidents.
Tho my 2 p worth, Tpap NEVER the Pres of all Cyprus (territorially or ethnically). He can claim all he likes, but he is not El Pres for most Turkish Cypriots - that person is Talat. |
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pg
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TP is the president and head of state of one of the 25 EU states. That can hardly be denied by anyone...
In that function he is the equal of both Sezer and Erdogan. |
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RudeGal
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| pg wrote: |
TP is the president and head of state of one of the 25 EU states. That can hardly be denied by anyone...
In that function he is the equal of both Sezer and Erdogan. |
I think we call it s*d's law! (well in London anyway  ) |
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Crash Test Dummy
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We all know that TPap may not be the true leader of Cyprus but the world thinks that.
According to the world Northern Cyprus does not exist as it is an illegal state. So anybody they elect is nobody.
The point I was making is - why the stupid remarks in a newpaper article? Pro-solution my ass.
And before you come out with greek this and greece that they are all as bad as eachother. just i noticed this article |
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erolz
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According to the world Northern Cyprus does not exist as it is an illegal state. So anybody they elect is nobody.
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CTD North Cyprus the place exits and North Cyprus the administration exists. Physically and legally. Legally the administration exists as the 'de facto' controlling entity of the North. Other states do not recognise the legitimacy of it as an independent state in its own right, but they recognise and accept that it exists - for to do otherwise would be pretty stupid. Whoever we elect in the north is the legitimate representative of our community. The worlds states may not agree that our community has the right to a separate state in Cyprus but they do recognise that we have a stake and say in the future of Cyprus as a community and essentially based on the notion of some form of equality of our community to the Greek Cypriot community as embedded in the original 60's consitution. They also recognise our elected leaders are representatives of our community. |
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pg
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One reason that the original article of this thread was pushed out, is most likely that Turkey is under pressure to negotiate the Finnish formulae, but they are refusing to.
All that talk about who should attend the talks - and that Turkey can not negotiate with one specific state of the 25 member states... |
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stavrizatz
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| Eee Brother all the articles you post are from the Turkish Daily news. What do you expect them to write, anything good about Greece and Cyprus; ofcourse they will pick up all the negative things about Greece and Cyprus to make Turkey superior. |
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brother
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| Eee Brother all the articles you post are from the Turkish Daily news. What do you expect them to write, anything good about Greece and Cyprus; ofcourse they will pick up all the negative things about Greece and Cyprus to make Turkey superior. |
Actually i read and quote a lot from Cyprus mail, Cyprus weekly, Zaman news, Hellenic resources and of course Turkish daily news and occasionally from the BBC news.
I read all these papers daily and have no particular favourite among them and i also post negatives on all parties concerned in the cyprus problem aswell as positive ones.
Please feel free to go through my 8000 posts to date to see what i am saying.  |
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