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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Turkish Cypriot architect arrested for refugee property ... Reply with quote

From today's Cyprus Mail:

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Turkish Cypriot architect arrested for refugee property developments
By John Leonidou

A TURKISH Cypriot architect was remanded in custody for eight days yesterday after being charged with designing luxury houses and hotels that are being illegally constructed on Greek Cypriot land in the occupied north.
The man was arrested at the Ayios Dometios checkpoint on Tuesday after customs officers searching his car came across seven box files containing architectural plans and documents issued by the Turkish Cypriot authorities...........


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I wonder what would happen if the refugees brings their cases to the Turkish property commission....

mod note: article shortened and link added, please try to stick to the rules Smile http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/faq.php?mode=sitefaq#3 Thank you.

I was a bit short of time.../pg

ok, accepted. Exception. Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how many G/C architects, engineers, etc co-operate with him.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it somewhat bizzare that the Republic of Cyprus is choosing to prosecute a Turkish Cypriot for designing property that is then built on pre 74 Greek Cypriot land, but not arresting Turkish Cypriot or others that have bought such property and live in such property? Surely if it is a crime to take payment for desiging such property it must then be a crime to buy them once built and live in them? Why then the arrest of this person and not any arrest of thousands of Turkish Cypriot or british expats for that matter that cross regularly into the south and have bought and live in property that were Greek Cypriot controled pre 74 or on land that was? To me it seems a very arbitary enforcment of the law and that is never good is it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the police a few weeks ago also stopped some British how was going through the checkpoint holding some plans and contracts for buying a property.

Seeing an architect as just a "designer" it seems a bit strange arresting him. However, the architect is often the one leading the development team in these projects.

Strange move, but the real estate developments of the last couple of years is rather upsetting...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pg wrote:
I think the police a few weeks ago also stopped some British how was going through the checkpoint holding some plans and contracts for buying a property.

Seeing an architect as just a "designer" it seems a bit strange arresting him. However, the architect is often the one leading the development team in these projects.

Strange move, but the real estate developments of the last couple of years is rather upsetting...

Is it possible that the current situation with the Turkish architect will start to send maybe a good or bad message to the T/C's who regularly cross the divide.

My view is not about whether he is right or wrong for drawing plans on land belonging to someone else
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100%cypriot wrote:
pg wrote:
I think the police a few weeks ago also stopped some British how was going through the checkpoint holding some plans and contracts for buying a property.

Seeing an architect as just a "designer" it seems a bit strange arresting him. However, the architect is often the one leading the development team in these projects.

Strange move, but the real estate developments of the last couple of years is rather upsetting...

Is it possible that the current situation with the Turkish architect will start to send maybe a good or bad message to the T/C's who regularly cross the divide.


I would assume it is some sort of carrot and stick tactic...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pg wrote:
100%cypriot wrote:
pg wrote:
I think the police a few weeks ago also stopped some British how was going through the checkpoint holding some plans and contracts for buying a property.

Seeing an architect as just a "designer" it seems a bit strange arresting him. However, the architect is often the one leading the development team in these projects.

Strange move, but the real estate developments of the last couple of years is rather upsetting...

Is it possible that the current situation with the Turkish architect will start to send maybe a good or bad message to the T/C's who regularly cross the divide.


I would assume it is some sort of carrot and stick tactic...


I would love to hear your theory on the carrot and the stick !

p.s my mind is like a sponge at the moment on the cyprus issue so don't take that as sarcasm, please eduvate me a little more

thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, with the loads of Turkish Cypriot that do work in the south it does seem to me to be working quite fine - I am sure there are exceptions. Still, officially, in terms of unions etc, the line is that Turkish Cypriot should be paid as much as the Greek speaking Cypriots. with this in mind many Greek Cypriots still prefer hiring Turkish Cypriot instead of much cheaper other work force (usually from anywhere between Syria and India). To my knowledge the majority of Turkish Cypriots working for Greek Cypriots also seems to have a good relationship - and no one is complaining if they are refugees and living in a Greek Cypriot property.

In addition there is also the free health care, quick sale of electricity etc. In some way there is some idea to try to make the live as easy as possible for the Turkish Cypriots, as long as it would not lead to non-reversible moves with regards to the cy-prob.

Now, do not think that I would defend every move of this government......, and I do not (either) think that everything is roosy. However, I think someone is trying to come up with some carrots.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pg wrote:
Well, with the loads of Turkish Cypriot that do work in the south it does seem to me to be working quite fine - I am sure there are exceptions. Still, officially, in terms of unions etc, the line is that Turkish Cypriot should be paid as much as the Greek speaking Cypriots. with this in mind many Greek Cypriots still prefer hiring Turkish Cypriot instead of much cheaper other work force (usually from anywhere between Syria and India). To my knowledge the majority of Turkish Cypriots working for Greek Cypriots also seems to have a good relationship - and no one is complaining if they are refugees and living in a Greek Cypriot property.

In addition there is also the free health care, quick sale of electricity etc. In some way there is some idea to try to make the live as easy as possible for the Turkish Cypriots, as long as it would not lead to non-reversible moves with regards to the cy-prob.

Now, do not think that I would defend every move of this government......, and I do not (either) think that everything is roosy. However, I think someone is trying to come up with some carrots.


My friend you have made a fair comment on which i will try to find out more on the views of G/c's & T/c's not actually on our forum.

Maybe i could ask my mother in the north if she know's of anyone who actually work's in the south & also i am fortunate that my Father in law is a greekcypriot businessman who could also tell me of the views from people he knows in the building industry
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100%cypriot wrote:
My friend you have made a fair comment on which i will try to find out more on the views of G/c's & T/c's not actually on our forum.

Maybe i could ask my mother in the north if she know's of anyone who actually work's in the south & also i am fortunate that my Father in law is a greekcypriot businessman who could also tell me of the views from people he knows in the building industry


Are you married to a G/C woman then??!! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on people keep up. Smile

It has been established that 100%cypriot is the person refered to in this article here

http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4014

You are now the third person to ask this question in one form or another Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night two car loads of Turkish Cypriots were dragged to Engomi police station because they found in the poccession of a Turkish Cypriot lady in one of the cars some plans and sketches for the development of an area in Kyrenia. A couple of Greek Cypriot lawyers sped to their help (one of them was traitor Papapetrou) and after a couple of hours they managed to get them released with a minimum of damage.

Koulentis, the chief of Police said today that this policy will continue but mark my words, this strange government of ours will soon be calling for the closure of the borders so that we can return to the good old days, when things were simpler and straight forward. They on one side and us on the other!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bananiot wrote:
Last night two car loads of Turkish Cypriots were dragged to Engomi police station because they found in the poccession of a Turkish Cypriot lady in one of the cars some plans and sketches for the development of an area in Kyrenia. A couple of Greek Cypriot lawyers sped to their help (one of them was traitor Papapetrou) and after a couple of hours they managed to get them released with a minimum of damage.

Koulentis, the chief of Police said today that this policy will continue but mark my words, this strange government of ours will soon be calling for the closure of the borders so that we can return to the good old days, when things were simpler and straight forward. They on one side and us on the other!


Hi friend , where did you read the piece on (ENGOMI) please

I haven't seen that one yet.

Sorry everyone i am a bit slow today,,,,got out of bed the wrong side Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't, I was there. One of the Turkish Cypriots that was taken to the police station is a friend of mine and he gave me a ring so I popped there to see what was happening. The Police chief was on radio this morning.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bananiot wrote:
I didn't, I was there. One of the Turkish Cypriots that was taken to the police station is a friend of mine and he gave me a ring so I popped there to see what was happening. The Police chief was on radio this morning.


I think i will scour the news and see if there is anything about it

Tkanks
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