Case of a G/C selling land on the North?

Leyla · Mukhtar/is Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 612

Through the grape vine I have heard of a case where a G/C family have sold some of their land on the North. They live in the UK but from what I gather they crossed over to the North, located the necessary officials to deal with the paperwork and have since sold the land. I have never heard of such a case, has anyone else? Rolling Eyes

cypezokyli · Ministerial Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

there have been such rumours , that Greek Cypriots have been contacted in order to sell their land , and the whole process being done "legally" (by legally i mean , that the owner would give up his rights on the land for money , and not legally according to the laws of the Republic of Cyprus).
the rumours say that some people did sell.

but as i ve said : "rumours"

moonskin · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject:

Actually, there have been such rumors for Turkish Cypriots selling their land in South too for years now! As a matter of fact, Rauf Denktas is one of the specualtors of such information that the issue has reached to a massive scale for the Turkish Cypriot side.

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

dont they get paid to give up their right of ever claiming back their stolen land??

not actually sell it

depurple · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Boys I'm Back: Just spent a week on Frazer Island fishing!

Many Turkish Cypriot have sold there land in the south: I have seen it:
And I have been TOLD that some Greek Cypriot may have sold there land BUT what I think it is mainly Foreigners who are doing this like Aussie Cypriots and UK Cypriots:
BUT then again many Greek Cypriot have become very rich very quick:
So it is like a Cypriot politics No-one say anything!
My lips are sealed!

Alexios · Mukhtar/is Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

The Law provides that T/Cs who evidently emigrated from Cyprus before 1974 can claim their land in the South.Also, T/Cs living in the North can claim their land in the South, provided they move and live in the South for a period of atleast 6 months.(re:Arif Moustafa case)It is not an easy process however, as all applications have to go through the Ministry of Interior and a lot of red tape is involved, especially after cases of fraud involving both G/C and T/C crooks have been brought to light so Government and DLO officials have become increasingly suspicious.
I really dont know of any cases of G/Cs selling their land in the North through normal channels, though i have heard of "private" agreements between G/Cs residing abroad and foreign developers who had "purchased" G/C land from T/Cs to whom the land was "alotted" and then "bought" again for a second time from the real G/C owners through such "private" agreements in order for their investments to take up a more "legal" status and therefore demand a higher price.( as is the case of clean T/C property in the North...)
Generally the vast majority of G/Cs cannot sell land in the North or T/Cs living in the North cannot sell land in the South, unless they decide to move and live in the South for a period of 6 months as i said before...The difference is that the DLO in the South recognizes T/C kocans.I personally have recently obtained fresh kocans from Paphos DLO regarding undivided share property belonging to my late father where T/Cs appear amongst others as share owners.
I should guess, that if it was easy for G/Cs to sell their land in the North, the Cyprus problem would have been solved by now.The free market has strong and peculiar ways of beating politics...

RudeGal · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:14 am Post subject:

RudeGal · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:16 am Post subject:

On a related matter, I (scan) read in Kibris newspaper yesterday that they've uncovered some scam where Greek Cypriot mafia forging docs to sell off Turkish Cypriot land. Anyone heard this in other press?

Mete · Deputy Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston

Alexios · Mukhtar/is Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

Mete , Levent has been writing about a T/C crook with connections in the south (he even mentioned the other day in his article in Politis that the wife of this crook works for the CYBC!!)

The Kibris case is a different one, concerning several G/Cs including a muhtar who forged a power of attorney from 2 old T/Cs "authorizing" him to sell their property in the south.They even went as far as "producing" Belgian passpors to "prove" that the owners left Cyprus before 1974 so the sale could be effected much easier.Fortunately the DLO did its job well and the case was uncovered.Due to my profession I happen to know very well how the Cyprus DLO operates and i am confident to say that they are extremely investicative so to speak when dealing with transfer of land even when this is done from parents to children. Still, mistakes do take place and i urge T/Cs who havent already done so, to pay a visit to the DLO of the respective district they or their parents own land in the South and request issuance of fresh title deeds (Kocans).DLO operations are now computerised and such issuance is very easy at a very small fee.The issuance of a fresh kocan is recorded and as a recent entry it gives that much more protection to the owner.

RudeGal · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:33 am Post subject:

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