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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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| That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status. |
...i guess i'm too lazy to find the definitive source of where this Statement comes from, but this is the link to this quotation's source:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=35098&Cr=&Cr1=
please note:
-a federal government must exist.
-a Turkish Cypriot constituent state must exist.
-a Greek Cypriot constituent state must exist.
thus the only conclusion i can make is that there is a need for Greeks to constitute a form of representation that completes this Agreement's very basis; a Greek Cypriot constituent state.
here are the rainbow lines i draw:
1. the federal government defines its Citizens as Individuals; by their residence.
2. the voting is democratic, all voters voting in the same way, all votes are given the same weight.
3. the legislature for the federal government is Bicameral, it is the Upper House that provides leadership, having seats equally divided among Turkish and Greek representatives where a majority of seats must be won by a leader who becomes President. and a Lower House which is elected by Population, as Independants representing sober second thinking, voting by consensus through a Speaker, they would also sit in Government Committees. (slight shades of the Annan plan)
4. as such, a voter will vote thricely (voting once), from three seperate slates, so that the best representatives are elected by and for the voter's riding, they will vote for their Turkish Cypriot Representative and their Greek Cypriot Representative, as well as their Independant. Representative. (shades of the guy or was it the guy before that)
...do the math (for the Upper and Lower House), then assume larger populations and a different demographic, do the math again...
...then consider how over time a representative's experience and expertise can grow, and consider how this changing population is open to a representation in the future which will sustain Turkish and Greek identities by civic leaders of neither ethnicity.
5. the Turkish constituent state, and the Greek constituent state shall be equal, in that they each represent themselves as Persons in a National Assembly where their electorate is identified by their residence, and in that they obtian their Charter meeting the same criteria determined by the federal government which retains its Sovereignty while assigning territorial Jurisdiction.
6. Bizonal shall define a geographic representation of our commitment to redressing the suffering of all displaced, with their return, for some as communities. thus the island as it is divided has to its political geography many pockets added everywhere, resulting in the obligation of the National Assemblies to provide their service to an electorate that is island-wide.
7. settlers who apply for Citizenship, who are accepted, and who will be newly displaced (from the repopulation) shall be provided homes, or at their choosing compensation.
other thoughts...
8. a protocol over the land issue shall be formed so that most disputes are settled by the afffected bodies themselves. the IPC's mandate may be extended to settle the compensation issues of all the displaced, however rulings from the Supreme Court of Cyprus must remain a final court of Judgement for all Property issues.
9. each of the governing bodies will have the right to armed forces toward the enforcement of Law. however only the federal government has a right to an armed force which defends the State. for foreign troops to exist on the island, none are Sovereign in their Bases, recognising the will of the Cypriot People. as such demilitarised, their own armed force could gain great experience in union with willing lease holders toward a common goal which may serve the bigger fight against real enemies (such as disaster, or disease, hunger, or where there are refugees and displaced against their slaughter), or otherwise strictly not allowed.
...so, three governments (at least); two levels of government: that's Bicommunal.
...so, constituent states made of many components define a National Identity; they serve this majority first, recognising the special needs of others, Nationally an effort toward the State: this is Bizonal.
dear readers, kindly offer your observations point by point to this document's benefits and pitfalls. whether you agree with this proposal as a solution to the Cyprus Problem or not, i'd like to know if at least it is easy to understand. |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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...there are some things which are universal. language is one of these "things" which survive when they are being used. here it was that in France there were Germans who spoke French. and in this view Napolean III defined a State by its glory, not by a Race; this is the Birth of Nationalism.
...thus it was for the great Ataturk who lead the Nations of Turkey into a State that was Turcophone, a Nationalist of equal stature, who I believe remains betrayed, in essence by the Kemalists who remained, because they failed to find their Unity in the diversity of Turkey as a Political Geography; representing Universal Values. Instead starving any identity other than Turkish, they serve the notion that the State is one Nation.
...what does this have to do with Cyprus you might ask? It is the Modern Ideas of these men understood: we are as Individuals equal in one State, while as Persons we are free to sustain our own distinct Identities. These ideas are the root of their efforts, to define and give meaning to these Principals, ironically Bicommunal.
...our leaders failed us after the First World War. They failed us by ignoring what a whole generation of young men gave their lives for: an end to war amongst Men, a recognition of the powerful emotion of Hate, and a direction more toward real enemies such as Hunger, Ignorance, and Disease.
If we as People allow ourselves to be manipulated, it will be this National interest, our Language, from it our differences will be used to divide us. ...as is done between the Jews and the Arabs, without an ethno sphere we become less Human.
...this will be our choice, if by silence we allow the agenda to be set by others, here on this island. i ask all its citizens to give of their Grace so that if it is to be divided, it is not quite simply to tear it in two. our Problem is not "Greek" vs. "Turk", it is the Right for these dwellers as Cypriots, to remain the Stewards of this land, Sovereign in Representing its interest. there are many voices to be heard, of what remains of our living Patrimony, there are Maronites and Armenians, as well as Romes. And what of the living Patrimony to come? (the population of Cyprus is around 12 million) The issues are for more complex, Tolerance, and a demonstration of this Will are the need; for all Mankind. On a much bigger scale, we must become prepared to confront the forces of Nature (with ocean acidification and global warming) in a global network of regions, where in ours Israel and Turkey with us, communicate allied toward this and other larger goals.
...a dreamer, i think
not. just a social scientific research and
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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why all this "Greek" "Turk" debate?
The Problem is a matter of Principal and the dignity we call Basic Human Rights. beyond these; efforts for exclusivity, there is "us" as this island's dwellers, as its Steward.
Since we, as Cypriots, have committed ourselves to a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation, where have we demonstrated a commitment to defining this in a manner which can be emulated for all of Mankind's benefit?
…"The partnership will comprise a Federal Government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status."
Therefore, Bicommunal does not mean two governing bodies. in fact it cannot mean, “two” governments.
...count them, three.
we will live in a State where there will also exist National Assemblies; there in, Citizens will act as Persons having a majority, respecting and recognising the minorities living amongst this electorate because as Individuals, as Cypriots, within these Jurisdictional territories, we serve together higher and Universal values.
Similarly, Bizonal cannot mean tearing the island into two mutually exclusive pieces.
...adding "enclaves" to the island's geography as it is divided today makes good sense because it allows for Justice to be seen, a means for all of us to redress the suffering of the displaced by recognising their loss, '63 and '74.
if these "spots" of various sizes were to be added to the whole landscape, for some at least, there will be a return as they were forced to leave, as communities. (even more boldly, the settlers (and those that will be displaced) can be given homes; not houses). Thus, the "Green line", with "enclaves’" inclusion, ends as a border to be guarded; one mono-clonal society isolated from the other mono-clonal society no more.
two constituents (at least) will have an obligation to serve an electorate that is island wide. as Cypriots with Free Movement, Free Association, and Free Expression, we will gain the greatest number of choices on this island as ethnospheres sustaining diversity, wherein we are Persons, and as well the complexity of a Cypriot movement, the People as one State, united toward our demonstration of Universal Principals, their defense and their betterment. National Assemblies, whether there is a "motherland" or not will have to serve this diversity, for us and from us, the "distinctiveness" of Persons who have a representation as a Country as well.
we will have in this personal identity as Cypriots, a deep attachment, whatever colour or creed, to each other, and (as well) to the living identities we can communally sustain.
...am i linking territory with property clear enough? what's the alternative, but a Heritance older than Greek or Turkish lost. so too this civility, the respect which made Cypriots as villagers, and as a People, some of the greatest cooperators in the world.
Cheers! |
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