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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7737413.stm
In that battle for democracy, Hrant Dink was on the frontline. Now there is another sign the fight will be fierce.
The "Ergenekon" trial is being held at Silivri prison in Istanbul
Eighty ultra-nationalists are currently on trial just outside Istanbul, accused of plotting to overthrow the government and block democratic reforms.
The prosecutor claims the group - known as Ergenekon - planned a campaign of murder and violence. It was meant to create chaos - and force the military to step in and take control.
Hrant Dink believed Turkey could change. His vision was of a truly democratic republic and the EU accession process was a vital part of that. |
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repulsewarrior
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| Liberal Democrat politician and member of the European Parliament Andrew Duff was in Ankara earlier this week on the occasion of the 62nd meeting of the EU-Turkey Joint Parliamentary Committee. The meeting coincided with the emergence of the original of the military plot which has sent shockwaves throughout the country, with many circles gearing up to stand by democracy and the rule of law in Turkey. |
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| “But if there is any sense of suspicion that the Turkish army is [not] cleansed of corruption and it is not completely faithful to the civilian power here in Turkey, then it will not be trusted by its NATO partners. In the case of a greater degree of transparency and greater degree of cooperation between armed forces and the civilian courts, then I think the outcome is going to be substantially better for Turkey’s democratization process,” Duff continued. |
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-191351-ep-member-calls-for-civilian-courts-full-access-to-military-archive.html
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...with the authentication of a plan in writing, it is hoped that the democratic forces in Turkey can turn the tide against the "deep state" and its corrupting influence over what are the founding Principals of Kemal. |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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Indictment verifies Cage museum plan with concrete evidence
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The indictment puts forward several pieces of evidence for a frightening planned act of terror of the junta nested within the Naval Forces Command against young students visiting the Koç Museum. According to the plan, several blocks of TNT and other explosives placed at the bottom of a submarine exhibited at the museum would be detonated while a large group of students was visiting the museum...
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-200064-cage-probe-deepens-with-poyrazkoy-indictment.html |
excuses, and directing blame at others, seems to be a normal tactic from the generals. i especially like the idea that a large cache of explosives were forgotten in a submarine, now a museum piece... |
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repulsewarrior
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Seven senior military officers have been formally charged in Turkey with attempting to overthrow the government.
They include four admirals, a general and two colonels, some of them retired.
The seven were among more than 40 officers arrested on Monday over an alleged 2003 plot to stir up chaos in Turkey and justify a military coup.
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The meeting was called after the country's top generals and admirals met at short notice on Tuesday to evaluate what the military called a "serious situation".
'Sledgehammer' plot?
The scale of Monday's operation against the military was unprecedented and increased the tension between the government and the armed forces.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8531486.stm |
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repulsewarrior
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Birkibrisli
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Hello,dear repulseW>>>Nice to see you are still here fighting the good fight...Here is another Gul article....I wonder why he wants to find a solution by the end of 2010????Turkey has never been in such a hurry before...
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| President Abdullah Gül has said talks between Turkish and Greek Cypriots on the island's fate must be concluded this year, warning that failure to meet the deadline could spell the end of Turkish efforts to reunite the island. |
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-213544-100-cyprus-talks-cant-last-forever-president-gul-warns.html |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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...i would ask Mr. Tezcan if in Turkey, there are examples of this "Integration" he suggests is lacking toward Immigrants in Europe.
...he should do well learning that there exists identities of Persons, but that in Modern States, as Individuals the People stand united for a Greatness that goes beyond their Nations.
in my humble opinion Ataturk rumbles in his grave, with what Kemalists are doing. it is a stagnation of thought that has left them divided, unstable, looking eastward without a western face.
interesting times to say the least. when one watches Turkey, one watches Iran, Syria, (and Brazil); i watch Pakistan, Afghanistan, (and Iraq).
yet, it is true that European Nations must accept The challenge of a European Union. with or without Turkey, that is not a reason to deny the need for a Muslim "face" within their own designs Internationally.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11725311 |
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Birkibrisli
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia
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...i would ask Mr. Tezcan if in Turkey, there are examples of this "Integration" he suggests is lacking toward Immigrants in Europe.
...he should do well learning that there exists identities of Persons, but that in Modern States, as Individuals the People stand united for a Greatness that goes beyond their Nations.
in my humble opinion Ataturk rumbles in his grave, with what Kemalists are doing. it is a stagnation of thought that has left them divided, unstable, looking eastward without a western face.
interesting times to say the least. when one watches Turkey, one watches Iran, Syria, (and Brazil); i watch Pakistan, Afghanistan, (and Iraq).
yet, it is true that European Nations must accept The challenge of a European Union. with or without Turkey, that is not a reason to deny the need for a Muslim "face" within their own designs Internationally.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11725311 |
Hello,dear RW...I read this article in Turkish this morning...A lot of the comments agree with the envoy...They believe he is talking the truth,there seems to be a lot of discrimination against the Turkish citizens in Austria...
As for Turkey,a lot is happening under the radar,but nothing will surface till after the general elections next year..I am concerned about the direction Erdogan is taking Turkey...He is saying one thing and doing something else...His model is not the EU but more like Russia...He is acting like Putin more and more...All power in his own hands...We shall see how the voters respond to him next year..There seems to be a lot going on re a solution for Cyprus by the end of this year..But time again is running out..So we shall see...Cheers and best regards...Bir |
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repulsewarrior
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?msg=commentsaved&n=8216useful-idiots8217-2011-03-08
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Among the evidence of crime are manuscripts of books to be published on Islamists’ infiltration into the police force and the judiciary. The infamous “nutty professor” who is another coup suspect and was arrested in the latest wave sums it up: “Under Hitler’s rule, they burned published books. Now in Turkey they are burning books not yet published.”
Never mind… It was fun all the same to see the appalled European faces along with appalled “liberal Turkish faces” after the latest wave of arrests. You cannot be serious about your shock, gentlemen. What else did you expect when any possible thesaurus failed to provide you with sufficient words of praise for the AKP’s “determined march toward advanced democracy.” You can enjoy Turkey’s advanced democracy now. Our colleagues in prisons certainly don’t.
“Useful idiots” was how mass-murderer Stalin dubbed left-wing academics who enthusiastically supported his communism. Now it seems “useful idiots” were not a Soviet particularity. |
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repulsewarrior
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While Oran was being threatened, an attempted murder occurred in northern Cyprus. Mustafa Yalçın, an ultra-nationalist Turkish citizen from Turkey attempted to kill Şener Levent, editor-in-chief of the Africa newspaper, which had previously been bombed and attacked. The attacker said he wanted to kill the editor because of his newspaper's anti-Turkey and anti-Turkish Cyprus stance.
Was it a coincidence that the threats by TİT in Turkey and the attacks in Cyprus started simultaneously? Maybe.
When Ergenekon suspects carried out an armed attack to kill judges in the Council of State in 2006, at exactly the same time explosives were planted in the car of Ali Osman Tabak, a columnist of the Africa newspaper in Cyprus. Was this timing a coincidence? Maybe.
When Kutlu Adalı, a well-known dissident with regard to the status quo in Cyprus, was killed in 1996, the Turkish Gladio's (Ergenekon) hitman, Abdullah Çatlı, was on the island. Was this a coincidence, I don't think so |
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=249710
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| This list can be extended for many other incidents and links between Cyprus and Ergenekon. In spite of all these clear connections, though, Ergenekon prosecutors unfortunately failed to investigate any of Ergenekon's activities in Cyprus. When I say “deepening Ergenekon investigation,” I mean following all these links and others. |
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