Marcos Baghdatis in alledged racist chant incident

[erolz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-Me8u4tJI

Is it him in this video? Are the translations correct ?

[polis]

[erolz]

[Crash Test Dummy]

Translation is correct.

Could be one of the many hairy brutish males that reside on the island

[stavrizatz]

Yes its Marcos in Melbourne last year after his loss against Gael Monfils at a party organised by hellas fun club group at the Macedonian community centre. I was there. Why are you asking Erolz if the translations are correct? Did he say something wrong? As for the Turks out of Cyprus, something is lost in the translation, the slogan "Turks out of Cyprus" refers to the Turkish Occupying forces and not to Turkish Cypriots. As for the slogan Greece, - Macedonia, is because most of the people there were Macedonian Greeks.

Those who might ask why such slogans after sporting games...I don't know either I have spend 6-7 years trying to understand the 'wok' mentality but I couldn't. Telling them not to sing any political chants, I was some kind of wierdo.

wok= the eastern EU migrants to Australia who have been stereotyped and discriminated by the anglosaxon Australians because they would refuse to give up their traditions. The more pressure by anglosaxon Australians to change their culture, the harder the woks fought to keep their tradition and culture and that lead to some motherland nationalism.

[stavrizatz]

ps seems to me that the film was posted by ATCAnews, the chauvinist group of diaspora Turkish Cypriots who are trying to promote Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and permanent partition and their job is to post anti-Greek massages.

[erolz]

[erolz]

[stavrizatz]

[erolz]

[stavrizatz]

[cypezokyli]

i find this discussion a little bit childish
he is a kid.
he is a good tennis player. thats all. one should not expect from him to be politically correct.

I can remember myself shouting things like that as a student , in anti-occupation demonstrations . It took a discussion with an akelite to realise the difference between the "turks out of cyprus" and "attila out of cyprus" (i.e the turkish army).

you have to understand that the average Greek Cypriot, (assuming he has not visited such forums, or has not received any left wing propaganda), does not realise what he is shouting. most of them (just like bagdatis) are mostly interested in going to clubs, shouting in favor of football teams, and discussing about their new mobile phone. if the situation arises, they all just follow the crowd and shout anything the rest shout. most of them are good kids, all carrying some stereotypes , who hardly bother to think what exactly it is they are shouting.

A typical football example: Apoel and Omonia are both nicosia teams, but have funs throughout cyprus. It is a rather usual phenomenon, for their funs (including the ones originating from limassol) to shout in football games : Limassoleans your mother is a whore !
the psychology of the mass, is way stronger than logik. noone at that point will pause and make the simple thought: I am calling my mother a whore!


when Turkish Cypriots listen to such things are of course hurt.
I also realise that.
I am sorry.

[AQMessiah]

In all honesty, this is beyond childish. That slogan has been chanted for years referring to the Turkish occupation on the island. How you twist it to include the Turkish Cypriots is beyond me...

And for the record, if you want to chant 'Greeks out of Cyprus' by all means, I'd probably be chanting it with you.

[Dhavlos]

Yeh, i mean it really has been lost in translation...it refers to turkish army, not turkish cypriots...or at least htat is what i have always been told.

[RudeGal]