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Mete
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Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Posts: 1150
Location: Boston
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Nothing stops your acknowledged by the UN elected communal leadership (don't you have one?) to reclaim the Turkish Cypriot community's rights within the Republic of Cyprus!
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I'm sure you guys will find a way to deny that too but that aside, why should I be punished as a citizen if my "communal leadership" does not have the vision or the courage to reclaim what rightfully belongs to me? I should also point out that Greek Cypriots claim that Republic of Cyprus exists, not the Turkish Cypriot leadership, and therefore it's Greek Cypriot responsibility to make sure Republic of Cyprus exists today as it was intended to in 1960. So as a citizen, if I want my rights within the Republic of Cyprus, it's Greek Cypriot responsibility to grant my rights and not the Turkish Cypriot leadership. At least that's how it would be if there was a will. But it seems like just like we use property issue as bargaining chip in future negotiations, you guys like to use political representation and international recognition as bargaining chips. That's understandable but at least don't complain about your properties in the north when you do the same sort of tactics to maximize your gains only with different tools. |
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Kifeas
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Ministerial
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2733
Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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| Kifeas wrote: |
Nothing stops your acknowledged by the UN elected communal leadership (don't you have one?) to reclaim the Turkish Cypriot community's rights within the Republic of Cyprus!
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I'm sure you guys will find a way to deny that too but that aside, why should I be punished as a citizen if my "communal leadership" does not have the vision or the courage to reclaim what rightfully belongs to me? I should also point out that Greek Cypriots claim that Republic of Cyprus exists, not the Turkish Cypriot leadership, and therefore it's Greek Cypriot responsibility to make sure Republic of Cyprus exists today as it was intended to in 1960. So as a citizen, if I want my rights within the Republic of Cyprus, it's Greek Cypriot responsibility to grant my rights and not the Turkish Cypriot leadership. At least that's how it would be if there was a will. But it seems like just like we use property issue as bargaining chip in future negotiations, you guys like to use political representation and international recognition as bargaining chips. That's understandable but at least don't complain about your properties in the north when you do the same sort of tactics to maximize your gains only with different tools. |
Mete, just be patient my friend! I am sure you will get the answers you are looking for, on all of the above queries, when those 78 will eventually make it the ECtHR and a court ruling will be available! |
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Mete
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Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Posts: 1150
Location: Boston
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Mete, just be patient my friend! I am sure you will get the answers you are looking for, on all of the above queries, when those 78 will eventually make it the ECtHR and a court ruling will be available!
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You're right and I'm looking forward to that day. |
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Kifeas
Warnings : 6
Ministerial
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2733
Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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| Kifeas wrote: |
Mete, just be patient my friend! I am sure you will get the answers you are looking for, on all of the above queries, when those 78 will eventually make it the ECtHR and a court ruling will be available!
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You're right and I'm looking forward to that day. |
One thing I can tell you for sure is that any outcome, whichever way it goes, can only be favorable and will be greatly welcomed by the Greek Cypriots.
PS: To get an idea as to which way the ECtHR will most likely go, read the “Ibrahim Aziz vs. Cyprus” case ruling! |
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Get Real!
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Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 325
Location: Nicosia
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| Firstly, I rarely talk nonsense, and this is not one of these rare times! |
Awesome! 
Keep them coming... |
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turkcyp
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Any news on this issue?
Last I have heard they were willimg to go all the way to ECHR.
Did they exhaust all the internal legal remedies to be able to go to ECHR? If they did, did they decide to go to ECHR or did they simply decide they can not win and choose not to?
In simple any news? |
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brother
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005
Posts: 8938
Location: London/Cyprus
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TURKISH Cypriots Ali Erel and Mustafa Damdelen have filed a recourse against Cyprus at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) to allow the Turkish Cypriot community representation in Parliament.
A statement issued by the Turkish Cypriot Cyprus-EU Association and signed by Erel and Damdelen, said the applicants continued to seek reactivation of their constitutional rights providing for political representation in the House of Representatives.
They said their hope was that the application would contribute to the resolution of the deadlock in the Cyprus problem.
Erel and Damdelen, along with 76 other Turkish Cypriots, requested in February last year to be registered in a separate electoral roll for the May parliamentary elections, a right guaranteed by the 1960 Constitution.
The Minister of Interior rejected the request and a judicial review was initiated before the Supreme Court. The Court dismissed the application on in April this year, basing its decision on the law of necessity.
“Mr Erel and Mr Damdelen now turn to the ECHR as their last resort to secure their human rights,” said the statement. “They base their case on a breach of Article 3 of Protocol No 1 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees the free expression of the opinion of the people in the choice of the legislature.”
In Strasbourg, Erel and Damdelen will be represented by Achilleas Demetriades and Nicolas Kyriacou.
The case is expected to proceed in the next 12-18 months.
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http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=34540&cat_id=1 |
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stavrizatz
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Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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Good on them, I am happy when ordinary citizens take action. I hope they win the case. It is also encouraging that their lawyers are Greek Cypriots.
ps I apologise for holding the view that the Republic of Cyprus represented the whole of Cyprus, I had the impression that Turkish Cypriots were able to claim back their positions. I admit I was wrong.
ps. I also read about this in some Greek Cypriot media and I was glad that they seemed in support of the Turkish Cypriots. |
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Chapfallen
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Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 464
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| represented by Achilleas Demetriades |
Achileas Dimitirades was also the lawyer of Titina Loizidou and lawyer of Aresti Ksenidi.
TPap in his bullshit crying speech said what if we say Yes to the Anan plan we will loose the ability to go to the ECHR but the man who bring to us the great victory of Titinas Loizidou in ECHR voted Yes to the Anan plan like his father Lellos Demitiriades.
Of course these persons are traitors and corrupted like the patriot jokes are saying. |
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