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depurple
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100%cypriot
Go to the SOUTH and look and SEE: IF there is any Greek Cypriot who has manipulated stolen Turkish Cypriot land THEN he will BE made accountable by the EU and the UN But what with the North????????????????????
Who will tell the British living in my Grandfathers house that it is illegal??????????????
Who will tell the Turkish Cypriot who have bulldozed my Uncle Takis lemon trees in Lapithos and built some apartments that it is illegal????????????
Who my Friend WHO?
Denktash?
Talat?
Nadil?
WHO?
Erolz?
You?
I don't thinks so? My friend?
BUT you name any Greek Cypriot who has stolen and illegally built on Turkish Cypriot land and then PLAYED Dumb like the Turkish Cypriot do and I will personally write to every contact I have in the Republic of Cyprus and elsewhere to make sure THESE criminals pay and that the Turkish Cypriot received JUSTICE!
BUT where is this Justice for the Greek Cypriot in the Nth?
So my friend 100% go to the South and see! WHY?
Because the South is monitored by the EU and the EU WILL make sure that the Republic of Cyprus is governed in a correct manner!
There is NO Turkey Ottoman thinking in the EU!
cheers and wake up to the reality!
It is like when TURKEY once said that the Republic of Cyprus is getting the S300 to attack Turkey and take BACK the Nth and maybe attack the main land! Dream ON! Turkey Dream on!
Can an ANT Screw an ELEPHANT?
Let me know?
DP!
PS All we want is what is legally OURS not one thing more! |
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100%cypriot
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Read this dp and read it properly as it actually belong's to my mother and her family , so stop giving me the " Oh we are so innocent " CRAP,
http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4474
Don't forget Read it Carefully and let me know with all your " Contacts " what punishment they are going to get !!!!!!!!!
So wake up to the real Cyprus !!!!! not the one that has so much spoon fed Propaganda that you Greek Cypriots continually keep Digesting ,
Justice in Cyprus for Turkish Cypriots ?
Yeah Right , we got more chance of all winning the American Lottery for the rest of our live's .
Tell me something dp ? Do you actually believe some of the Stuff that you write ?
I know of people that lie so much that they start to believe the lies that they tell. |
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100%cypriot
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Sorry dp one more point , is this the tip of the iceberg ? this is the case that we know about , what about the one's that are refugees and have since died , what about them , no children , no idea whats going on ?
P.S Isn't the land that YOUR Larnaca Airport is built on TURKISH CYPRIOT LAND ?
Don't talk to me about injustices , what about the TURKISH CYPRIOT owner of the land that YOUR airport sits on ?
Why Didn't YOUR Gov Build on GREEK CYPRIOT land ?
Oh yes i forgot the So Called Protector of the TURKISH CYPRIOT land stated that the man would be Compensated , Yeah Right . at 1974 Prices . oops are'nt the Greek Cypriots Demanding Compensation at Today's Prices ?
Smells of DOUBLE STANDARDS to me don't you think ? |
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100%cypriot
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| So as you see it has blown your Myth strait out of the door |
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repulsewarrior
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quite clear, dep. Tell it as it is.
The Republic of Cyprus is not recognised by Turkey. Their Army may have removed the people from their homes, but in their mind these people were not a people, therefore they did not exist. Nothing existed before the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, but for the leasing arrangement, on which the Brits. reneged. |
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repulsewarrior
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
Will my mother get justice ?
Not in the south of Cyprus that is a certantity, |
Your mother will not get justice in the North of Cyprus either,my good friend.Unless she had good connections to the Powers that be and was given land or property legally owned by the Greek Cypriot refugees in the North.That is a double certainty. |
cent percent, this is the point dep is always making, and for that matter most of us in this forum, stay calm, we all wait for real leadership, as dep says, they are ALL crooks, keep the faith with Grace, there must always be Hope.
... at least the theft is not institutionalised, that is a double certainty, as well. |
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stavrizatz
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100% next time you want to prove someone wrong come up with a better argument.
In south the Turkish Cypriot properties as I said earlier are looked after by the government and no Greek Cypriot ownes Turkish Cypriot property as the government does not issue titles of ownership. Yes there were cases of exploiting Turkish Cypriot land but that is illegal and as you 've raid in the case provided in the link those men were found guilty and got charged.
Turkish Cypriot properties are given to Greek Cypriot refugees but Greek Cypriot are not owners but something like lenders.
As for Larnaka airport and bullshit that you digest in the North it has been compensated and the money entered an account of which they get interest. That does not happen just with Turkish Cypriot properties but when the government wants to use some land for community purposes such as roads, schools, hospitals etc. they compensate the owners of the in which the development takes place. Similar thing happened to my parents they lost 2 scales of land for the development of the new motor way to Troodos but we got compensated. |
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100%cypriot
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
Will my mother get justice ?
Not in the south of Cyprus that is a certantity, |
Your mother will not get justice in the North of Cyprus either,my good friend.Unless she had good connections to the Powers that be and was given land or property legally owned by the Greek Cypriot refugees in the North.That is a double certainty. |
cent percent, this is the point dep is always making, and for that matter most of us in this forum, stay calm, we all wait for real leadership, as dep says, they are ALL crooks, keep the faith with Grace, there must always be Hope.
... at least the theft is not institutionalised, that is a double certainty, as well. |
We only know what they want us to know  |
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100%cypriot
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100% next time you want to prove someone wrong come up with a better argument.
In south the Turkish Cypriot properties as I said earlier are looked after by the government and no Greek Cypriot ownes Turkish Cypriot property as the government does not issue titles of ownership. Yes there were cases of exploiting Turkish Cypriot land but that is illegal and as you 've raid in the case provided in the link those men were found guilty and got charged.
Turkish Cypriot properties are given to Greek Cypriot refugees but Greek Cypriot are not owners but something like lenders.
As for Larnaka airport and bullshit that you digest in the North it has been compensated and the money entered an account of which they get interest. That does not happen just with Turkish Cypriot properties but when the government wants to use some land for community purposes such as roads, schools, hospitals etc. they compensate the owners of the in which the development takes place. Similar thing happened to my parents they lost 2 scales of land for the development of the new motor way to Troodos but we got compensated. |
This is for you and the rubbish that you talk.
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Turkish Cypriot land battle goes to court
(archive article - Saturday, January 21, 2006)
TURKISH CYPRIOT landowners yesterday appeared in court to demand the return of their land, during the first day of a trial examining the illegal transfer of ownership and sale of Turkish Cypriot land in Kato Pyrgos and Ayios Theodoros.
The Paphos Criminal Court heard Turkish Cypriot property was “illegally transferred to Greek Cypriots” who proceeded to sell the land to a development company for £972,000.
The accused are Kato Pyrgos’ community leader, a land registry official and four other area residents who are charged with forgery, circulating false documents, bribing public officials as well crimes related to covering up the scandal.
During yesterday’s court hearing one of the Turkish Cypriot landowners presented a document from the occupied areas, which caused an immediate reaction from the court authorities, the Cyprus News Agency reported.
The trial will continue on Tuesday in Paphos.
According to CyBC radio representatives of the Tyllirias Turkish Cypriot Society expressed their complete satisfaction, from a judicial and political aspect, that the scandal had been brought to light.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007 |
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Paphos property ring found guilty
(archive article - Wednesday, September 27, 2006)
A PAPHOS criminal court has seized the assets and bank accounts of six men found guilty of conspiring to sell Turkish Cypriot land in Ayios Theodoros Tyllyrias.
The crimes were committed in 2000, when the defendants sold the land to a real estate developer for £972,000.
The six men are Kato Pyrgos community leader Krinos Theocharous, Nicosia land registry officer Michalis Kalathas, Kato Pygros Tyllirias community council employees Charalambos
Charalambous and Georgios Savvas, entrepreneur Costas Constandinou and private individual Andreas Savva.
They collectively faced 59 charges, including conspiracy to defraud, issuing false documents, abuse of power, covering up a felony, and corruption of a public servant.
The court accepted the prosecution’s request that the defendants should return their ill-gotten gains by way of their bank accounts and, if necessary, having their personal property seized.
In trying to convince the court to commute the sentences, the defence team argued their clients had health problems and their finances were unsound after a protracted trial.
The defendants could face up to 14 years in jail; the closing statements and sentencing will be heard tomorrow.
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Sentences for land scammers
(archive article - Wednesday, October 4, 2006)
THE PAPHOS Criminal Court yesterday convened and announced the penalties that would be enforced on six men accused of illegally selling Turkish Cypriot properties in Ayios Theodoros of Kato Pyrgo Tyllirias.
Kato Pyrga community leader Krinos Theocharous and Michalis Kalathas, an official at the land registry office, were both given three-year prison sentences.
Businessman Costas Constantinou and members of the Kato Pyrga community council, Charalambos Plastiras and Georgios Savvas were imprisoned for two years.
Private businessman Andreas Savva received an 18-month jail sentence.
State Prosecutor Savvas Matsas repeated yesterday that this trial was one of the biggest of its kind that ever took place in Cyprus and described the penalties as “leniently insufficient”; and this, he said, was why the prosecution was planning to appeal.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007 |
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100%cypriot
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This is THEFT no matter which way you want to twist it , and these guy's are just scapegoats , to make it look like the Turkish Cypriot land and properties are being looked after ! , well they cry to the EU about all the injustices against them so they need to be seen to be protecting the right's of the Turkish Cypriot.
RE Larnaca Airport , is it right to compulsory build on someone's land when they have no knowledge of what is going on ? Maybe that guy would have refused to allow the building on his land , ! it doesn't matter anyway because he is Turkish Cypriot and what kind of justice would he have got in a Greek Cypriot Court |
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pg
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| This is THEFT no matter which way you want to twist it , and these guy's are just scapegoats , to make it look like the Turkish Cypriot land and properties are being looked after ! , well they cry to the EU about all the injustices against them so they need to be seen to be protecting the right's of the Turkish Cypriot. |
Are you for real... scape goats with prison sentences... When are the developers of Greek Cypriot land in the north going to prison?
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RE Larnaca Airport , is it right to compulsory build on someone's land when they have no knowledge of what is going on ? Maybe that guy would have refused to allow the building on his land , ! it doesn't matter anyway because he is Turkish Cypriot and what kind of justice would he have got in a Greek Cypriot Court |
It is not possible to refuse a government's use of the land for infrastructure projects - anywhere in Europe. |
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repulsewarrior
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I think it is a healthy attitude to question authority.
However, there are Customs which are Universal, in the Occidental world it is the basis of the Rule of Law, and in this context, I think Cypriots can count themselves lucky that they have a Judiciary that is respected worldwide as a system which is most refined.
cent percent, once again i'm asking you to remember that this tiny thread, this dialog, for the moment is all that Cyprus has, as a chance for ending this Problem. Don't get all tied up by making generalised admonishments. Most of us, who write regularly, I imagine, have the same state of distress, in their lives, as you. We are the few who can sustain the reasons why Cyprus must remain free, belonging to no one, its dwellers having their own State from which to have their own governance... so...govern yourself accordingly.
theft is wrong. no one here is condoning theft, where can we go from here?
I say it is defining our geography so that it has many parts, allowing for the return (or establishment) of whole communities north (or south), Bi-Zonally, so that the social fabric of these two peoples is not torn, while it also allows for those who wish to live as a minority, the opportunity to do so, all citizens having equal and free expression, association and movement. |
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100%cypriot
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
I think it is a healthy attitude to question authority.
However, there are Customs which are Universal, in the Occidental world it is the basis of the Rule of Law, and in this context, I think Cypriots can count themselves lucky that they have a Judiciary that is respected worldwide as a system which is most refined.
cent percent, once again i'm asking you to remember that this tiny thread, this dialog, for the moment is all that Cyprus has, as a chance for ending this Problem. Don't get all tied up by making generalised admonishments. Most of us, who write regularly, I imagine, have the same state of distress, in their lives, as you. We are the few who can sustain the reasons why Cyprus must remain free, belonging to no one, its dwellers having their own State from which to have their own governance... so...govern yourself accordingly.
theft is wrong. no one here is condoning theft, where can we go from here?
I say it is defining our geography so that it has many parts, allowing for the return (or establishment) of whole communities north (or south), Bi-Zonally, so that the social fabric of these two peoples is not torn, while it also allows for those who wish to live as a minority, the opportunity to do so, all citizens having equal and free expression, association and movement. |
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100%cypriot
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| pg wrote: |
When are the developers of Greek Cypriot land in the north going to prison?
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The sooner the better , I as a CYPRIOT have never , Don't , and never will condone the theft of anything from anyone !!!! and the guilty parties in the north should be brought to justice as should the Guilty in the south |
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stavrizatz
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| This is for you and the rubbish that you talk. |
Be specific, where did I talk rubbish?
The cases that you've provided don't prove anything but the fact that it is criminal to exploit Turkish Cypriot properties in the South and that is recognised by the law and the Republic of Cyprus.
As for the airport, what can I say... suggest a way that the government could go ahead with infrastructure projects without using private land?
maybe the airposr should of been build on the air or in the sea  |
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