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Kifeas
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Kifeas
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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Kifeas
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Christofias, in my opinion, lacks the minimum necessary educational and professional background and /or knowledge for a president. To the contrary, this is the strong card of Papadopoulos!
The man doesn’t even speak or know decent English. How is he going to negotiate? For example, how is he going to explain to Talat that if he wants a solution, the first thing he should be prepared to do is to take that “constitution” of the “Turkish Cypriot” state and shuffle it in the ass of the shameless Generals? |
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Bananiot
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| But, if he becomes the democratically elected President you, I take it, will go along with Christofias, despite his shortcomings. |
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Kifeas
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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| Bananiot wrote: |
| But, if he becomes the democratically elected President you, I take it, will go along with Christofias, despite his shortcomings. |
If he is democratically elected, of cource I will go along, because I respect the laws of my country! He will be the president of the Republic of Cyprus and the chief negotiator of the Greek Cypriot side, and as such I have a moral duty to support him, and not undermine him like some of you have been doing against Papadopoulos! |
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Mete
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| Kifeas wrote: |
For example, how is he going to explain to Talat that if he wants a solution, the first thing he should be prepared to do is to take that “constitution” of the “Turkish Cypriot” state and shuffle it in the ass of the shameless Generals?
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Yep, this language is totally the way to achieve a compromise solution to our problems. |
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Kifeas
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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For example, how is he going to explain to Talat that if he wants a solution, the first thing he should be prepared to do is to take that “constitution” of the “Turkish Cypriot” state and shuffle it in the ass of the shameless Generals?
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Yep, this language is totally the way to achieve a compromise solution to our problems. |
This is the only proper language deserving those that thought of imposing the father of Turks and the father of Turkish nationalism on the Greek Cypriots that would have wanted to returned back to their ancestral lands, as a way to discourage them from doing so in order for the Turks to consolidate the 1974 ethnic cleansing and secure exclusive ethnic ownership of 30% of our country! |
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Mete
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| Kifeas wrote: |
This is the only proper language deserving those that thought of imposing the father of Turks and the father of Turkish nationalism on the Greek Cypriots that would have wanted to returned back to their ancestral lands, as a way to discourage them from doing so in order for the Turks to consolidate the 1974 ethnic cleansing and secure exclusive ethnic ownership of 30% of our country!
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I don't necessarily disagree with you but as I said before, with this kind of a language, you're asking people to disagree with you. |
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stavrizatz
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Christofias, in my opinion, lacks the minimum necessary educational and professional background and /or knowledge for a president. To the contrary, this is the strong card of Papadopoulos!
The man doesn’t even speak or know decent English... |
I disagree, there are many qualities required by a leader, those that you 've mentioned are just some of them. Generally Papadopoullos has better qualities for a leader but the Cyprop will not be solved with him being a president. Christofias on the other hand has much better relations with the Turkish Cypriot community and he is better at building the relations between the two communities. |
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Mete
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he is better at building the relations between the two communities.
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What makes you say that? My feeling is that he's not much different than Papadopoulos in terms of caring about Turkish Cypriots, otherwise he wouldn't have supported Papadopoulos for so long. I know that there are some contacts between AKEL and CTP but as far as I can tell, nothing substantial came out of these meetings and it doesn't look like Christofias has more wisdom than an average politician. Anyway, of course, I'll be happy to be wrong. |
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Bananiot
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| If he is democratically elected, of course I will go along, because I respect the laws of my country! He will be the president of the Republic of Cyprus and the chief negotiator of the Greek Cypriot side, and as such I have a moral duty to support him, and not undermine him like some of you have been doing against Papadopoulos! |
Thus I take it that if President Christofias decides to go ahead with his expressed idea of 2004 that with a few changes to the Annan plan we can say a loud "yes" too, you will support him and go along with him simply because he is the democratically elected President and any other stance by you would be immoral. Please confirm. |
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pg
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Christofias, in my opinion, lacks the minimum necessary educational and professional background and /or knowledge for a president. To the contrary, this is the strong card of Papadopoulos!
The man doesn’t even speak or know decent English. |
A couple of weeks ago I heard him say a couple of words in great school English. Has he taken a course as preparation?
Apart from that, Papadopoulos is a lawyer, not a politician - look where that has taken us. |
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Bananiot
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| Christofias probably speaks better english than Papadopoulos. He definately speaks better Greek and he also speaks Russian. He can also utter a few words in Turkish which is miles better than anything Papadopoulos can do. Papadopoulos is a confirmed Turk hater and Akel´s late leader Ezekias Papaioannou sent a memo to all members telling them that Papadopoulos is a man that must never be allowed to become President because if he ever manages to climb to this position he will do everything to destroy Akel. |
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cypezokyli
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| stavrizatz wrote: |
he is better at building the relations between the two communities.
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What makes you say that? My feeling is that he's not much different than Papadopoulos in terms of caring about Turkish Cypriots, otherwise he wouldn't have supported Papadopoulos for so long. . |
christofias supported tpap because of two reasons :
1. was domestic politics. dysi which was rulling for 10 years was pretty corrupted, and the only way for akel to take some part in the corruption was by collaborating with tpap
2. akel gravely miscalculated and didnot forsee that a window of opportunity would be opened soon. they didnot expect that the cyppro would be coming so close to a solution. thats why they voted tpap.
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| I know that there are some contacts between AKEL and CTP but as far as I can tell, nothing substantial came out of these meetings and it doesn't look like Christofias has more wisdom than an average politician. Anyway, of course, I'll be happy to be wrong |
if christofias is voted it doesnot mean that we will find a solution.
it means that there is at least a chance for a solution - while with tpap there is none.
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as for abilities, i believe that kasoulides is the more able of the 3 candidates - by far. but at this point i would even go for christofias just to defeat tpap. |
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stavrizatz
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| What makes you say that? My feeling is that he's not much different than Papadopoulos in terms of caring about Turkish Cypriots, otherwise he wouldn't have supported Papadopoulos for so long. I know that there are some contacts between AKEL and CTP but as far as I can tell, nothing substantial came out of these meetings and it doesn't look like Christofias has more wisdom than an average politician. Anyway, of course, I'll be happy to be wrong. |
I know, Cyprus politics are a bit complicated...
Look, AKEL is a communist party and for that reasons they were and they are not able many more votes than their 30% share that is required to form a government. For this reason AKEL has been supporting a different party (not DYSI, who are the rivals) in order to win the elections. However DIKO (the party of Tpap) and AKEL are very different. AKEL's policies are pro-unification, pro-Cypriots, somehow anti-Greek (only because KKE is not so strong any more). AKEL supporters are those who took Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus flags in the Omonoia-Apoel game, remember! I sure you would love AKEL whan you find about the bicommunal work they do with Turkish Cypriots and the confidence building measures.
Saying that, i don't think AKEL will be able to form a government for the next 20 years  |
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