turkish army uses missing persons for experiments ?

cypezokyli · Ministerial Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

its all over the Greek Cypriot media. i dont know if the information crossed the check points yet.

according to a think-tank in the USA called "Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy", a report was published claiming that the turkish army used in the mid-80s, Greek Cypriot prisoners and kurds to test biochemical weapons.

surprisingly , a number of media have taken in general a calm aproach and so did tpap. they all wait for more info from the person who wrote the report.

if anyone gets access to the real report, it would be nice if we could read it.

Kifeas

s300 · Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:53 am Post subject:

Here is an article about this report:

http://english.people.com.cn/200610/24/eng20061024_314563.html

My mother's brother (18 .) and her cousins(13 & 15) were last seen alive in Turkey- I wish they would verify this sort of stuff before it is leaked to the media.

It would be very unfair to use the grief of the families just before the Turkish EU deadlines for political leverage in the lead up to the upcoming steps towards Turkish EU Accession.

If it is a hoax I feel sick thinking about it- but on the other hand they were all seen alive many months after their capture.

turkkan · Senior Villager Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 198

‘Shocking reports that missing were used as guinea pigs by Turkey’
By Jean Christou

AN AMERICAN defence and strategic policy report saying some of the 1974 missing Greek Cypriots ended up as guinea pigs in Turkish biochemical experiments was described as “shocking” yesterday by Foreign Minister George Lillikas.

Commenting on the report in the subscriber bulletin “Defence and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy”, which hit the headlines at the weekend, Lillikas said the government is expecting a full report on the claims.

According to the American article, which examines “the growing confrontation” between Turkey and the Kurds, between 1984 and 1988 many missing Greek Cypriots and Greek soldiers captured during the invasion ended up in secret Turkish biochemical laboratories.
Here there were used as guinea pigs, the article said. However it added that the allegations were unconfirmed.

It said that Theophilos Geogiades, the Greek Cypriot civil servant and chairman of the Cyprus Committee for Solidarity with Kurdistan, was murdered by the Turkish secret service MIT in March 1994 because of what he knew about the experiments.

Georgiades was gunned down outside his house only a week after he had attended an international conference held in Brussels where he had revealed data on Turkey’s methods for the suppression of the Kurdish problem, according to the report.

It also suggested that he knew about the experiments on the captured Greek and Greek Cypriots.

“His accusations brought a substantial reaction in Turkey,” said the report. “And after he returned to Cyprus he was killed in the yard of his house by gunshots fired by unknown people. It was rumoured he had information about missing Greek Cypriots and he was in contact with PKK Kurds who had managed to escape from a secret biochemical laboratory of the Turkish army outside of Ankara and which operated under the supervision of the Gulhane Military Medical Academy,” said the article.

“These Kurds had witnessed the conducting of biochemical experiments on Greeks and Greek Cypriot captives.”

Speaking at the House Finance Committee yesterday, Lillikas said the government is expecting to receive the report and will take steps to verify the content.

“It is a human tragedy with many families of the missing persons involved, who suffer a lot more when such reports are published. Therefore we have to be very careful before we announce our positions,” he said.

Government spokesman Christodoulos Pashardis said the report was being taken seriously but it could not yet be verified.

He said government officials would be requesting a meeting with the report’s author as soon as the full text was received.

“The government is taking very seriously into consideration the shocking content of the American report on our missing persons, but is not in a position to verify it,” he said.

“The government will investigate the content of this report very seriously and responsibly, but has no evidence so far to confirm that it stands.”

The Defence and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy is a periodical that is exclusively circulated to senior government, defence, intelligence and industry officials in more than 170 countries worldwide. It is affiliated to the Washington-based International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA).
ISSA took over publication of the Defense & Foreign Affairs publishing in 1998 and which provides strategic information and analysis to governments worldwide. It also incorporates the Global Information System (GIS), an encrypted on-line intelligence service for governments.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2006

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=28598&archive=1

repulsewarrior · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:27 am Post subject:

http://english.people.com.cn/200610/24/eng20061024_314563.html

From China, but nothing new.

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia

Obviously I have no proof whatsoever,but my gut feeling on this matter is that non of the missing persons survived for long after the 63/64 or 74 events. I think it is very cruel to keep the hopes of their relatives alive after all this time.Reports like this are particularly sinister.If there were any truth in them you can bet that some evidence would've surfaced by now.Sorry... Crying or Very sad

brother · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject:

turkkan · Senior Villager Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 198

lol, that should make kifeas happy

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject:

if the US already didnt have Turkey under control I would think that they would invade.
saying that Turkey is huge and is therfore hard to control.

stuff like this really does piss me off. Why not use pedophiles?

city · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Are there any reactions yet from Turkey?

Kifeas · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:

It is a fact that a number of Greek Cypriot POWs and now missing, if I am not mistaken as many as 9 such cases, have been seen in Turkish prisons either by other Greek Cypriot hostages who knew them personally or have been recognized by their relatives in photos and video clips taken from within the prisons in which they were kept; but who have never been returned to Cyprus. This is different from other cases in which Greek Cypriots were seen or known to have been taken in Cyprus by Turkish Cypriots or Turkish troops, and are also now missing, and since there is no information to verify if they were ever transferred to Turkey, one may claim or assume that they might have been killed and buried somewhere in the north of Cyprus. We are only talking about people that at some stage have been seen alive in Turkish prisons, in Turkey.

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia

Kifeas,
How reliable were those reports of sightings in Turkey?
It defies logic that these people would be kept in prison for 10 years,just in case they became useful in experiments some time in the future.
You see what I am getting at?

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject:

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia