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RudeGal
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| Standingupfortruth wrote: |
| RudeGal, I have explained to you, I am ALLOWED to the critically analyze religion, I am not a coward that will be cowed by nutcases that you support who probably want to kill those Danish Cartoonists. This is EUROPE, the cradle of civilization itself, NOT SAUDI ARABIA! |
And even Europe has rules! I believe that there is extremity at both ends - even liberalism has its fundamentalists (you should have read some great debates in The Independent and Guardian at time of Danish cartoon debates to open your horizons!), and anything in extremity is bad!
If you can only put across your distorted views, then I assure you when you come across those far more learned about Islam than I (and probably most others on this site - Turkish Cypriots not known for their strict adherence to Islam,  ) you will find it impossible to argue your points and come across as balanced. Even from my position of relative ignorance, I know much of your rants on Islam are just that, rants! Not informed, balanced critiques - of which Islam is worthy. But you are not! |
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RudeGal
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Your latest claim is so preposterous! If that was the case why did the Ottoman Empire open its arms to Jews when not-so-tolerant Christian Europe threw them out and enabled some of them to reach top roles like Grand Vizier? And given the huge respect Islam places on all other faiths including Christianity (after all the teachings and stories from the Old Testament is part of the Islamic faith and Jesus is a prophet in Islam), I think you are talking 'outta ya ass'. Go take a chill pill before you spew on your Islamaphobia.
FYI, did you also know that unlike many other faiths, in Islam your relationship with God is direct and not through an intermediary? So when I die, I'll face the music and I'm pretty happy to tell God what I did and why, including all my multi-faith friends. So you just worry about yourself and be the best that you can, and let everyone else do the same! |
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De_La_Soul
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bg_turk - I have a few Bulgarian friends due to the fact my secondary school was an extremely multi-ethnic experience (in central london). They would be laughing their heads off if they saw your posts and your claims to be Bulgarian, nevertheless, your efforts to put two peoples in the Balkans against one another will not work - The Bulgarians I know detest Turks, just a couple of weeks ago one was telling me about how border guards at the Bulgarian - Turkish border make Turks wash their car wheels in bleach.
Feta is clearly Greek, as this shows:
"What we now call feta cheese was known to ancient Greeks, at least since Homer's era, as there were several references to it in the Odyssey. The myth has it that the cyclop Polyphemus was the first cheese manufacturer. Carrying the milk that he collected from his sheep in animal-skin bags, he realised, to his great surprise, that days later the milk had become a solid, savory and preservable mass."
Also discussed in more detail in the Byzantine era in the book Life and Culture of the Byzantines by Phaidon Koukoules.
Your 'Turkish dancers' signature is also an appropriation of Byzantine culture, it a Christian derivative of a pagan dance performed on Easter and the Kalends (another link of Pagan culture). Here is a beautiful fresco in a Byzantine Church showing Byzantine dance:
Oh, and Baclava is Assyrian in origin Xenos 2fan, it was brought to Byzantium by Greek sailors in most probably the early 9th century. |
WHY WAS THIS DELETED!? |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 1734
Location: Canada
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Mr. S., welcome to the forum. Can't say I agree with you about Greek pride, because, as a Cypriot, I feel that my roots trace to cultures older and perhaps as great. However it is true that the Greek language unites us to a great many people, who identify themselves similarly.
Great thread, and prolific, I hope you will look up my profile, because I would like your opinion on my views. |
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cypezokyli
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| HammerSkin wrote: |
1) Rudegal ... I don't give a damn how does that word is spelled...
Boyz n gals ... AND you made a comment for my dictation?
2)SURE not by throwing away my Greek Pride...
Solution? Got BORED listening to this fake word for 32 years .... FACE it... FOR AS LONG AS THE TURKISH ARMY IS ON GREEK CYPRIOTIC SOIL THERE WILL BE NO SUCH A THING AS A "SOLUTION"...unless ofcourse if one of the 2 Ethnicities of the Island die. |
in a way i agree with you.
the first "ethnicity" that should die is the fascists (both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots).
after that things will be way easier. |
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cypezokyli
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| De_La_Soul wrote: |
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bg_turk - I have a few Bulgarian friends due to the fact my secondary school was an extremely multi-ethnic experience (in central london). They would be laughing their heads off if they saw your posts and your claims to be Bulgarian, nevertheless, your efforts to put two peoples in the Balkans against one another will not work - The Bulgarians I know detest Turks, just a couple of weeks ago one was telling me about how border guards at the Bulgarian - Turkish border make Turks wash their car wheels in bleach.
Feta is clearly Greek, as this shows:
"What we now call feta cheese was known to ancient Greeks, at least since Homer's era, as there were several references to it in the Odyssey. The myth has it that the cyclop Polyphemus was the first cheese manufacturer. Carrying the milk that he collected from his sheep in animal-skin bags, he realised, to his great surprise, that days later the milk had become a solid, savory and preservable mass."
Also discussed in more detail in the Byzantine era in the book Life and Culture of the Byzantines by Phaidon Koukoules.
Your 'Turkish dancers' signature is also an appropriation of Byzantine culture, it a Christian derivative of a pagan dance performed on Easter and the Kalends (another link of Pagan culture). Here is a beautiful fresco in a Byzantine Church showing Byzantine dance:
Oh, and Baclava is Assyrian in origin Xenos 2fan, it was brought to Byzantium by Greek sailors in most probably the early 9th century. |
WHY WAS THIS DELETED!? |
bc he is banned. and it is the third time, he signs up, in less than a day Moderator's note: Correct |
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repulsewarrior
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| Standingupfortruth wrote: |
| De_La_Soul wrote: |
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bg_turk - I have a few Bulgarian friends due to the fact my secondary school was an extremely multi-ethnic experience (in central london). They would be laughing their heads off if they saw your posts and your claims to be Bulgarian, nevertheless, your efforts to put two peoples in the Balkans against one another will not work - The Bulgarians I know detest Turks, just a couple of weeks ago one was telling me about how border guards at the Bulgarian - Turkish border make Turks wash their car wheels in bleach.
Feta is clearly Greek, as this shows:
"What we now call feta cheese was known to ancient Greeks, at least since Homer's era, as there were several references to it in the Odyssey. The myth has it that the cyclop Polyphemus was the first cheese manufacturer. Carrying the milk that he collected from his sheep in animal-skin bags, he realised, to his great surprise, that days later the milk had become a solid, savory and preservable mass."
Also discussed in more detail in the Byzantine era in the book Life and Culture of the Byzantines by Phaidon Koukoules.
Your 'Turkish dancers' signature is also an appropriation of Byzantine culture, it a Christian derivative of a pagan dance performed on Easter and the Kalends (another link of Pagan culture). Here is a beautiful fresco in a Byzantine Church showing Byzantine dance:
Oh, and Baclava is Assyrian in origin Xenos 2fan, it was brought to Byzantium by Greek sailors in most probably the early 9th century. |
WHY WAS THIS DELETED!? |
Historical truth scares some people. |
What a beautiful bit of writing, learned so much, scathing yes... but seriously was it deleted? -why-
P.S. can barely type the muchine functions so slowly, many of my posts are deleted at php, cannot go back and forth through the pages of a thread since the 'changes'... So my question may sound a trifle. |
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cannedmoose
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Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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| HammerSkin wrote: |
Forum rules
1)Never say the word "Greek"
2)Always Agree with the turks
3)Defending your Ethinicity Is A CRIME if you are Greek
4)Nevermind if someone is talking about kemal ataturk , but as far as he doesn't refers to any Greek Personality ,there is nothing wrong!
5)Being turk gives you the right to talk with your self and your compatriots , or other Greek/cypriots who lost there sense of Greek I.D.
6)Replys to turks will be deleted if they are historically accurate. . . .
ETC ETC ETC...
"Freedom" of speach... |
I suggest you refresh your memory and read this... particularly the highlighted sections 
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This section of the forum is for discussion and learning, not teaching or preaching. It is for the sharing and examination of views not the imposition of them. This section is for peaceful dialogue, where people of all backgrounds can discuss the Cyprus problem, without fear of attack or personal insult.
Regardless of political beliefs, respect towards individuals is paramount as well as respect for any group or community. Racism and racist comments are not permitted.
The blue card system is in place for people to report personal insults or any other forum rules that have been broken, which moderators have not noticed. Self-moderation is expected from members, as moderators are unable to always find problems.
Henceforth, it is expected of members that they post with respect for others, whether they agree with them or not. Members who direct personal insults towards named or identifiable others (or make derogatory comments against named or identifiable others) will have their posts quarantined, pending they themselves amending the post to a respectable level (the areas contravening this guideline will be clearly highlighted by the moderator).
The final decision on the suitability of a post is at the disgression of the moderators. If the post is not edited within 24 hours, it will not be reinstated and will be permanently removed.
There is an expectation that members will be involved in self-regulation by using the blue card option to report posts that contravene the substance and spirit of this message (please do not abuse this option). Moderators cannot be expected to be present at all times to clear up the mess. Extremist views may be unsavoury, but they are to be respected as a person's beliefs... the watchword should be, criticise the point, not the person. If you're unable to do that, your posts will find themselves in quarantine.
Finally, what are the penalties for flagrant violations of these guidelines? Hereon, any member that gets 10 posts in quarantine receives an AUTOMATIC one week ban, without any further discussion. Upon their return, the slate is wiped clean and they won't be banned again unless 10 more of their posts are put in quarantine. |
In the case of Digenis Akritas/Byzantine.../StandingUpForTruth this member was banned within one day of his first post and has subsequently attempted to hijack the forum by returning under different pseudonyms. Once his initial ban has ended, he will be free to return, however, in the meantime all his subsequent IDs will be banned and all posts made under those IDs removed from the forum. |
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100%cypriot
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| Be Carefull Moose they are all gonna think you are a Turk Lover |
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100%cypriot
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Anyway whats the point of banning someone when they just go and use another name, the one week ban is not strong enough to put anyone off inciting racial Hatred of insulting someone on the forum.
If people act like this they should be banned for life from the forum.
Almost like fining Roman Abramovich a tenner for smoking in the lifts at chelsea |
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cannedmoose
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| Be Carefull Moose they are all gonna think you are a Turk Lover |
I've already been labelled as one of those by a few people. If you don't fall completely on one side or the other you're always labelled by both sides. If the day comes that a militant Grey Wolf enters the forum and attempts to hijack it in the same way as some recent joinees, they will receive similarly harsh treatment. There are many fora out there for extremist mutual appreciation societies to vent how much they hate the other side, this isn't one of them and anyone attempting to turn it into one will be banned. Anyone who consistently flouts the rules may be considered for a permanent ban, subject to the unanimous agreement of the mods/admins. Some people on here should remember that this is not a playground... |
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100%cypriot
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| cannedmoose wrote: |
| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| Be Carefull Moose they are all gonna think you are a Turk Lover |
I've already been labelled as one of those by a few people. If you don't fall completely on one side or the other you're always labelled by both sides. If the day comes that a militant Grey Wolf enters the forum and attempts to hijack it in the same way as some recent joinees, they will receive similarly harsh treatment. There are many fora out there for extremist mutual appreciation societies to vent how much they hate the other side, this isn't one of them and anyone attempting to turn it into one will be banned. Anyone who consistently flouts the rules may be considered for a permanent ban, subject to the unanimous agreement of the mods/admins. Some people on here should remember that this is not a playground... |
couldn't agree with you more ! |
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boomerang
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| Anyone who consistently flouts the rules may be considered for a permanent ban, |
would indecentely proposing another male person, be considered flouting the rules?...I was just wondering thats all...
and what about when someone quotes another forum member as to what they said, would this also constitude flouting the rules?
this is the link in question
http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4187&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Am I to understand
1...indecent proposals, from a male member to another member, is tolerated?
2...quoting forum members as to what they said, is not allowed?
Can someone, clarify these points for me please?
thanks in advance moose |
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cannedmoose
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Boomer... I'm sorry to say but if you are unable to tell the difference between a line written in jest and one written in seriousness, then that is your issue. From my perspective, the bickering between grown men about such trivialities demeans all those involved. If people are unable to engage in civil and adult discussion with respect, they shouldn't talk to each other at all, otherwise we may as well all go back to the stone age and hit each other with clubs as a form of communication. I for one don't really fancy such a proposition.
If you want to carry on arguing the point, you are obviously free to do so, but in doing so you will only continue to undermine the content of this forum with meaningless personal arguments. You are not alone in this, I include Eric and others in this category as well. Personal problems should be dealt with via PM, not forcing the rest of us to read such garbage. I know from a couple of communications from members that their interest in this forum has waned as a result of such petty discussions, but if you are happy to destroy other's interest by continuing in this vein, that is your choice.
This is my final word on this, I can't be bothered to consider this any further.
As for the title of this thread, this is not one of my creations... |
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boomerang
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ok I hear you moose...and thank you for the clarification....I will start jesting from now on, for the sake of the forum as to I don't want to undermind it, seeing that the forum rules allows as you say jesting...
you are the boss moose...but don't complain later that I jest...sounds like a fair deal to me...
PS1...while we are on the subject why not lend him your arse so the poor bastard doesn't have to go to the Republic of Cyprus to get some...keep it local I say...and moose you might even enjoy it and make some extra cash as well... you could even make a career out of it if you like...just jesting... 
PS2...have you also done a survey as to why some good debaters left the forum?...maybe could it be too much jesting?
PS3...I also consider the posts were DLS got warnings as jesting...so I find all these warnings against him unfair....He was just jesting...
Lets ask him...
DLS were you jesting all this time?...if yes then your warnings should be set to zero...
Last edited by boomerang on Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:16 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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