Petitioning the EU

[boomerang]

Dear Brian

From what I gather your aim firstly is to cancel Republic of Cyprus membership from the EU and secondly allow Turkey to accede the EU without having to recognise the Republic of Cyprus.

1...Could you please explain to me what would make your petition succesful, canceling Republic of Cyprus EU membership, because the way I see it, if there was a way of such a thing happening, Turkey and the UK would have expored it...wouldn't you agree?...After all they have the best advice money can buy...

2...And if there was a way of accession with out recognition the UK and Turkey would again have explored this avenue...again the British tried to but as we all can see it didn't work?...In fact the Republic of Cyprus got a better deal...

What makes you think your petition will succeed?...Can you share some light?


Cheers
Boomerang

[Kifeas]

[Viewpoint]

[Kifeas]

[boomerang]

I will go along with that Kifeas...I am sure Turkey will learn a lot from Brians petition...Maybe he is onto something that was overlooked by Turkey and the EU...who knows?

After all the UK endorsed the Republic of Cyprus for EU membership and now they are endorsing Turkey, could there be a divide and rule mentality going on here?

Brians petition seems to be fair, he wants to expose the divide and rule mentality of the UK...I say I am all for it.

And Brian also have a petition ready for the EU...as to why when every poll in the EU is against Turkey's entry...How come the leaders of all these 25 nations don't listen to their constituents?...I say the system is flawed, wouldn't you agree?...I don't know how can they look at themselves in the mirror...I don't know about you, but here, something smells fishy...here is proof and how petitions work
http://www.voiceforeurope.org/

People can you imagine the petition office in the EU for a moment?...How many petitions you think they handle every day?...Judging by this one I would say a lot...Give the guys at the petition office a break...It shows me there a lot of loose cannons around.

[gabs]

Stone throwing

France talks of Armenian massacres – yet say little about Algerian massacres.
Austria too talks of Armenian massacres – yet pushes for Croatian membership – (application on hold due to war crimes)

Whilst we can understand the French position i.e. agriculture, the Austria stance seems racial. What happened to the Human Rights Charter, which they agreed to uphold? Does it not pertain to the Austrian thought process?

Eu insists Turkey recognize Republic of Cyprus yet allows Republic of Cyprus to scupper Eu aid to Turkish Cypriots. They reward Greek Cypriots for their no Annan vote, and insult Turkish Cypriots with promises they cant uphold, as well as placing further barriers on turkish eu membership - toothless tigers.

They allow a half concocted country half entry to the union which is at very least in partial violation of that country’s constitution. The same may also be said of Austria - see conditions of Soviet withdrawal and Austrian constitution.

Some raise concerns over permitting an Islamic country membership. They preach secular – they say nothing of the Cypriot Church’s influence during the Annan vote. How secular?

Double standards from some Eu countries?

[bg_turk]

[erolz]

Article in Cyprus mail today re deporting foreigners from the Republic of Cyprus

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=22521&cat_id=1

[repulsewarrior]

Denktash and Makarios agreed on several occasions in 1974 to have as the basis of their agreement, a single state, bi-communal and bi-zonal. It was not their objective to have a divided state, or two seperate states. Many years past with meetings held in secret, but without apparent success. Hope was entertained with the suggestion of a bi-cameral central government and cantonal states which reflected the predominance of one community or the other. Interestingly this solution provides for the efforts of a cantonal majority in competition with other cantons to provide better recognition of their minority's rights as such acts would most likely have to be reciprocated.

I find this discussion about the past useful only if it is leading to a solution which allows for the normal freedom of movement which such a small population on an island can expect, without restriction based on ethnicity. Otherwise, the suffocating atmosphere will surely produce frictions, and more prejudice, impeding the pursuit of its' citizens desire for the peaceable enjoyment of their lives.

I deplore the government of Turkey as much as I deplore the government of Greece, because their policies mirror the antagonism they have promoted against each other without consideration for the suffering it causes to citizens other than their own.

Why not petition the EU for the dismissal of Greece and the admonishment of Turkey for being unfit for membership in this august body? Why not dismiss England and to some extent France for their involvment in foreign affairs which lead to the discreditation of Europe as a people for the emancipation of all who suffer, disposessed and in need, without basic Human rights?

Cyprus needs better. The whole world would be better off if our debate was focused on the future, where demographics and technology will impose new frontiers, making irrelavant the conditions which existed after, or because of, the Cold War.

[repulsewarrior]

There is a big difference between the State and the Government.

[depurple]

Hey Brian I wounder how much money you have invested in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and how much stolen Greek Cypriot land you and your friends are exploited in the last 30 years:
OK know back to your partition:
1:Cyprus would of been a member on the Common Market/EU if Turkey dint invade anyway:
2: Why didn't Turkey take all of Nicosia when it could of easily:
3: Why did Turkey advance in Cyprus during the agreed UN cease fire:
4: What happened to all the UN resolution on Turkey about Cyprus:
5: Turkey will need another 200 years before it if fit enough and civilized enough to join the EU so stop dreaming:
So Brian you and my mate Don should go get a cheap house from Denktash a few bob and live in the so called Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and leave the real thinking and solution to people who know the real answers: And like I said to Don and he did answer truthfully:
I wounder what you have to gain with Turkey joining the EU because I know the EU has nothing to gain except maybe have Turkey fight other Muslim countries on their behalf:
We will find out soon when NATO send Turkey in against Iran and Syria:
If you want a petition Brian you should first get Britain to leave Northern Ireland and do Don a favor:
Brian I don't know who make me laugh harder with your posting:
You(Thinking that Turkey is ready for EU status), Don (With his outside views), Eric (Frozen in the past ideas) or Homer Simpson (With his Duff Beer):

[Xenos 2Fan]

DP, thanks for your take on things even though this thread is about 6 months old and the person that started the thread never posts here any longer. Since you are so sure about Turkey needing 200 years to become civilised perhaps you can tell me the 6 winning numbers of the lotto for this weekend.