Interesting POV regarding EU/Turkey

Khan · Deputy Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

Translation: Turkey should not be allowed to join until the EU is ready to accept Muslims.

depurple · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:36 am Post subject:

OR Unless Turkey becomes Europeanised:
That is the Real Question:Can it?
Will the Military and the Islamic movement of Turkey let it?
Lets see:
Don't worry about the EU when they know 110% that Turkey thinks like a European even I will ask my friend sin the EU to make sure the Turkey gets in: Say your European and acting European is like chalk and cheese my good friend:

Its a long way to the EU unless Turkey learns to Rock & Roll: AC/DC

Khan · Deputy Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

I really despise terms like "think like a European". What is that meant to mean? That somehow the way Turks think now is inferior? Turkey has hundreds of years of history and culture which are in complete opposition to Europe, this is what makes it special in the EU. The EU is meant to accept new cultures, not reshape them.

depurple · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:03 am Post subject:

Well Khan you better think again my friend: That thinking is NOT European and IF you think that the EU will accept Turkey thinking like you: FORGET IT!

The EU will not only reshape Turkey BUT reshape everyone including Cyprus: Freedom of Speak, Language, religion, sex so you think Turkey will be accept because it what 1000s of years old: Are you kidding:
BUT fingers crossed maybe the EU will allow Turkey to join the EU without doing one single thing:
But I wouldn't count on it:
Please don't flog the dead horse: A Christian Club just follow the EU rules and change your attitude and thinking and then Maybe ONLY Maybe Turkey might get in:
If we are all still alive to see it:

Khan · Deputy Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

No depurple, where in the EU criteria for Turkey to join does it say anything about "change your attitude and thinking"? This is a huge generalisation that suggests the way Turks act and think is inferior. All Turkey must do is fulfil the criteria laid out for it, once this is done, there is no excuse to reject Turkey from the EU.

depurple · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:28 am Post subject:

But can it fill the criteria and don't think that by avoid some of the criteria that it has fulfilled:
I am the first person who wants Turkey in the EU WHY?
Because then I can go back to my land in Lapta and Turkey can not do a thing about it:
Also you can walk down the streets of Turkey talking Greek, Kurdish Armenian and Turkey will allow this:
You see Khan the EU criteria is not as simple as you and many other Turkish loving people think it is: In any other part of the EU religion. language and the military is in the background BUT where is it in Turkey me know:
I don't know how blind and naive people are with Turkeys EU coarse:
Fulfill the criteria and Turkey is IN?
Do you and other Turks have any idea what the criteria are?
Or do you just pick out the one you think Turkey wants and say that the others are made by Christian?
Please save me from your way of thinking:
Come in to the real world and walk through Europe and see what it is really like to live in a free, democracy where you can virtually do and say what you please without any decrimination:
My friend the criteria that Turkey thinks it has to fulfill and the criteria the EU wants Turkey to fulfill are 2 different criteria:
And you Khan living in London should know better: Go to Carnaby street this weekend and look around and tell me do you see Turkey like that:

Donald Keogh · Villager Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Ireland

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject:

Interesting posts people.

Begs one question; Who (if anybody) should change?

Should Turkey try to fit in with the EU since they want to join?

Donald Keogh · Villager Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Ireland

depurple · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:01 am Post subject:

So Don you see Turkey ready for the EU with its current thinking and mentally?
Or are you suggesting the EU should turn a blind eye to Turkey like the US and Britain has done and let Turkey join and then MAYBE they will change to the EU way of life slowly?
Also coming from Ireland I thought you would of liked to seen ONE United Ireland BUT apparently not:
And that is what you want to see in Cyprus:
A divided Cyprus so you and a few friends can party in the North at the expense of the poor who lost their land and properties like you have been doing for the last 30 years:
BUT what does the EU want Don?
Why didn't Turkey take all of Nicosia when it had a chance in 1974:
Also why did Turkey advance during the agreed UN ceasefire Don?
Maybe theses are too hard for someone like you to answer BUT I am sure you have something up your sleeve to tell me:
"Give Ireland back to the Irish"

Donald Keogh · Villager Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Ireland

Dhavlos · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:

The question here asks, not whether turkey will fullfill the criteria, it assumes that it does...what it does ask, is whether the EU is able to absorb such a large country....especially with regards to voting right/QMV, the CAP etc...

so really the question is more....can the EU absorb any further?

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1404 Location: Australia