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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Mark Steel: A corner of the Med that is forever English Reply with quote

Saw this in the Independent but copied it from the print edition as I wasn't going to pay £1 for one sodding article. Typed it out last night and tried to post it - before the frigging server crashed!

Mildly amusing, but can't tell the difference between emigrants and expatriates -or British and English. (I think Cyprus, particularly the North, needs more repatriates from Green Lanes.) I wouldn't be an emigrant just by moving to Cyprus, though I would make the effort to learn Greek and Turkish. And it's Malta that drives on the left and has red post boxes.

Good to see that you can pick UK terrestrial TV with a big enough dish, unless somebody's taped it off BFBS TV in one of the SBAs.

Mark Steel: A corner of the Med that is forever English


Published: 05 January 2006
Having spent Christmas abroad, I can reveal the country we should look to for guidance on friendship between nations is Cyprus. It's true the place is divided between two halves that hate each other, but as an outsider even that appears quaintly baffling. For example, on the Greek side a typical news broadcast on the radio goes something like "Here are the headlines at mid-day. Turkey is still a shit-hole. We'll be back at one for an update."

Most Greek-Cypriot maps don't recognise that any places exist across the border, and the brochure in our hotel said that, while it is possible to cross to the Turkish side, "everyone who goes comes back wishing they hadn't bothered". As you flick through the adverts for go-karting and scuba diving, you expect to find one that says "Hire a cannon and bombard a Turk - £!0 for 15 minutes. At Sunset Excursions we don't believe shelling has to mean shelling out!"

The Turkish side is equal in the opposite direction, but most unexpected is the recent impact of a third nation - the British. The population on the Greek side is 700, 000, of which the British are now 60,000. As a result, almost every bar on the island has three screens showing Sky Sports, and now I've never been better informed about Port Vale's midfield injury problems. At one point I reckon I could have recited the Ryman League Premier Division off by heart.

Linguists ought to keep track of this, as there could soon be a new dialect, which will sound half Cypriot and half Sky Sports. Men with dark stubble in tavernas will make statements such as "Ah gotta tak ma car back to garage init, it still not work. When ah see that mechanic it gonna be judgement night - starting at 7.45 pm, it's a one you've all been waiting for, unless he fix carburettor."

Even more disturbing, several bars had huge signs advertising the times they were showing Emmerdale. Can it be legal to show Emmerdale in a foreign country? There are thousands of UN troops up the road. Surely they could stop that happening.

And this is only the start. Every few yards along the coast are huge billboards advertising for the British to buy property there. One advert encourages potential emigrants [sic - expatriates Rolling Eyes] by boasting the Englishness of the island, gushing "We drive on the left and have red [sic -repainted yellow Rolling Eyes] post boxes."

Because there's nothing worse than going abroad just to have the whole experience spoilt by finding the post boxes are a different colour.

On top of that, property sellers wander up country roads with clipboards, approaching you to ask if you want to by an apartment. At first this seems a bit hopeful. I can see why it might work with a rose in a restaurant, or a pirate DVD in a pub, but wouldn't think a house in Cyprus was the sort of thing you would buy on a whim. But presumably it must work, and occasionally someone gets back to their hotel and says, "I couldn't find any Cadburys' Fingers, but I did get the deeds to three acres of Limassol."

The British community in Cyprus should be studied by everyone who's ever ranted about foreigners coming over here in their thousands, crowding our small island and refusing to become integrated with "our" culture. The only British person I found who spoke any Greek was a woman who'd lived there 15 years, and said "I sort of know enough to get by."

In fact, at the wild bird park near Pafos, they put on an excellent parrot show - and it's not until you get home you think "Hang on - even the poxy parrot spoke English." I'm sure if you let a few parrots fly wild around the island, within a couple of weeks they'd be able to say "Coming up after the break, all the second-half action from Norwich versus Stoke."

But there doesn't appear to be any hostility between the British and Cypriots, and the emigrants [sic - expatriates Rolling Eyes] are only doing what people have always done, and moved to where they'll enjoy life more than where they were before. I just hope they realise they're lucky, in that there's no Cyprus Daily Mail screaming every day about the floods of economic migrants, and demanding they support Cyprus at football when they play England. Or that they sit a "citizenship test" [how many expatriates apply for Cypriot citizenship?], in which they have to prove they can play a bazouki well enough to be understood in an emergency, and set up a barber's shop to O-level standard.

And the whole process may solve the dispute between the Greek side and the Turkish side. Because now the Turks are trying to encourage a similar type of immigration. Soon the whole Mediterranean will have been bought by the English. Malta will be turned into a water-slide, Crete will be a Wetherspoons, and Cyprus will become a pedestrianised precinct, with only a plaque on a Warner Village complex marking where the border used to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what he is saying is "slowly, slowly catch your monkey" and all cypriots will be living abroad and cyprus will become English. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i saw the article title i immediately thought of gibraltar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For example, on the Greek side a typical news broadcast on the radio goes something like "Here are the headlines at mid-day. Turkey is still a shit-hole. We'll be back at one for an update."


this was the funniest bit LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

but i understand where he is coming from. I dont want cyprus to be 'concreted over and anglisised' Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the number of 60,000 is grossly overexaggerated. Most Brits who own property in Cyprus do not live there full-time but use them as holiday homes.

IMO, those that do should make every effort to involve themselves in the local society. I'm always fed up watching these TV shows of Brits living in places like Spain where they live in British ghettos and constantly moan about the Spanish way of life, nothing smacks of greater arrogance and ignorance. I think it's rather pathetic to move to a country and then have no interaction with its people or culture, they may as well have stayed at home and got a sunbed.

I accept that it's easier for those of us foreigners who have Cypriot families to assimilate, but I know quite a few people who have moved to the island and now speak excellent Kypriaka and are fully integrated into Cypriot society.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



the english invasion is under way
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullika wrote:
when i saw the article title i immediately thought of gibraltar


You should have thought of the Costa del Sol and the Costa Blanca in Spain. Gibraltarians are not British expatriates any more than Cypriots or Maltese, but nor are they just anglicised Spaniards. They're a mix of Italian, Maltese and Portuguese as well as Spanish and British.

They still have red post boxes (and the Queen on their stamps and money) because they're still a British colony, but they drive on the right as they have a land border with Spain (closed off completely between 1969 and 1982.)

I too hate the kind of British expat who moves to Spain but doesn't want to eat 'foreign food' or 'speak dago', and no doubt there are similar people in Cyprus.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Ireland a Football Ground:
Scotland a Golf Course:
Wales a Polo Ground:

But he better ask everyone Else what they want to turn Britain into!
Ask the Aussies:First!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a trip down to Green Lanes, or East ham, or Stamford Hill, or Brixton for some of you will give you an idea that all imigrants are the same.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zan wrote:
I think a trip down to Green Lanes, or East ham, or Stamford Hill, or Brixton for some of you will give you an idea that all imigrants are the same.


But are they immigrants or expatriates? Most British people who live abroad see no advantage in becoming citizens of their hosts' country, unless it's the US, Canada, Australia or New Zealand. Even if they do retain their British passports after naturalisation, they generally become assimilated as Yanks, Canucks, Aussies and Kiwis and are no longer seen as foreign.

depurple wrote:
But he better ask everyone Else what they want to turn Britain into!
Ask the Aussies:First!


A dumping ground for Aussie rejects, who complain loudly about how much they hate the Poms, but don't like Australia enough to live there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know about 60000!!! it sounds kind of too much.
but it is true, that in some places - villages they are the majority. if they would vote they could even elect a mouhtar Laughing

as for them not making an effort, to learn about cyprus... well its a matter of choice. in any case, i dont think that those who come and buy, are planning to work in cyprus. then, the english language and tv shows are not enough.

dont worry, they are not going to buy us. in case we realise that this happens we invite chaves to socialise the land and kick them out Laughing Laughing Laughing
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