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Have you seen the documentary Atilla 74 by Nikos Cacoyannis?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Have you seen the documentary Atilla 74 by Nikos Cacoyannis? Reply with quote

The documentary is incredible: It was film whilst Makarios was still alive:
The main things that shocked me where the following:
1: The Doctors at the hospital where ordered by EOKA B not to attend to the wounds of the Left wingers (Commies)
2: The Priest was witness to the EOKA B burring Greeks:
3: Clerides sitting with Denktash smiling like nothing has happen when the whole country was desecrated:
4: Samson saying we lost the half the island BUT WON THE WAR??
5: A EOKA B was asked if he had a bullet in his gun who would he shoot an advancing Turkish soldier or a communist and he said he could not answer that question?
Man I have seen this documentary a few times as well as Christopher Hitchens Documentary: Cyprus the divided island Why?
Christopher has one good point that is
Can the US solve Cyprus problem with 2 phone calls one to Turkey one to Greece? YES they can!
Will Turkey and Greece listen to the US? Yes they will!
Well have you ever wondered WHY they don't do this:

You can order Attila 74 on DVD from a US company called www.cduniverse.com
I have order 100s of movies from this company and they are very professional:
Please watch it and it will definitely wake you up top a few things:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen this movie and have a copy at home, i like the bits were you see old times cypriots doing there thing but i must say there is a lot of biased information as it was made at a Greek Cypriot perspective but none the less a enjoyable watching experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy it from www.cduniverse.com at USD$25.00 delivered anywhere in the world:
amazing documentary:
But it was buy Micheal Cacoyannis I made a mistake sorry people!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have this on dvd, its pretty biased toward the greek point of view and paints a different picture (different to reality) to the world. why didnt coccoyannis describe the suffering of turkish cypriots too?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because like most Cypriots and Germans we thought there wasn't any: But in reality there was and that is what we have to address: All of us have to be accounted for the past atrocities:
Specially the Politicians, Greece, Turkey and Britain!
We have to Say sorry and give compensation to where it should be given: Like what Japan is doing NOW to Korea!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3: Clerides sitting with Denktash smiling like nothing has happen when the whole country was desecrated:


Good old Clerides: Even in destruction, he remains a statesman. Laughing

As for the EOKA B guys, I have nothing to say but that they were just puppets of the Junta/USA that had zero support from the people.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puppets but they never paid for their crimes:I thought that they would be brought to be accountable for there actions?
Did you see when they asked the EOKA B who would he kill first the Turks or a Greek?Cypriot Communist and he wouldn't answer the question!
Also Sampson said we won the war against Turkey:
Turkey wanted half the island and we stopped them What a joke! Turkey couldn't take the whole island because then it would have to pay Britain the money Cyprus owed them!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I would love the money Wink the thing I want most is for them to realise the wrong they did. My mum had hidden us in the bath only a few hundred metres away from where those children were killed in theirs. My brother in-law and his family were taken as prisoners by Sampson and his henchmen and if it were not for Dr.Kucuk his sister would have died from the appalling way they were treated in captivity. It is an insult to people who lived through it to be told it never happened. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zan there was a lot more to Cyprus than what we all thought: If you look back at some of my posting you can see:But I will give a bit of a run down But get the movie you will thank me when you do! For some reason the British promised Cyprus ENOSIS during the second world war:
Cyprus owed millions to Britain for the infrastructure and Greece would not pay so they said to the Cypriots lets fight for ENOSIS:
Churchill said to Grivas you will not get ENOSIS while there are Communist in Cyprus so Griva FIRST AIM was to get rid of the Communists:
Some of the EOKA B said after they finish the commies then they Will kill all the Turkish?Cypriots under the banner we speak Greek and are Greek orthodox so WE ARE GREEK!
The British wanted top keep the bases and they got involved:
The US wanted Makarios out because he wanted to make Cyprus in to a second CUBA:
The Turks wanted Cyprus because they lost there foot hold in the Aegean:
Israel wanted to use the bases in Cyprus
So it goes on and on and on: That is why Cyprus was such a mix up TOO MANY Chiefs:
The losers US:
So get the movie ATTILA 74 ASAP and what it slowly and carefully and read between the lines:
Most of the people on this site only see Black & White BUT to Understand Cyprus you need to study:
The Cold War:(East/West Playing Games)
Fiji:(Rambuca Independence)
Kuwait:(Iraq invasion)
CUBA:(Missiles Bases)
RUSSIA:(Destroying NATO)
Britain (Spy Catcher) Churchill/Grivas/Bases
Greece (What it actually promised Turkey in 1922)
So there is a lot of studying here boy!
What the Greek?Cypriots and the Turkish?Cypriot did and said means nothing!! It was done because out of stupidity and greed:Nothing Else:
I would like nothing better than to bring all theses TERRORIST TO TRIAL:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erolz get the movie and watch it and then read between the lines and tell me what you think?
Believe me it will open your eyes BIG TIME:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erolz give me your postal address and I will send you a copy of Attila 74 to watch and you will look at Cyprus with a different perspective: I will also through in Cyprus the Divided Island By Christopher Hitchins:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Cyprus owed millions to Britain for the infrastructure and Greece would not pay so they said to the Cypriots lets fight for ENOSIS:
Churchill said to Grivas you will not get ENOSIS while there are Communist in Cyprus so Griva FIRST AIM was to get rid of the Communists:

i have to admit that these thins i ve never heard.
could you provide us some source on these two?
i ve never heard that england wanted money to let cyprus.
i ve never heard that there was a communication betweeb grivas and churchil. i know that the english saved his ass in greece from the communists. his later anti-communists action proove your point, but still, could you provide any sources concerning the link betweeb the english and grivas?

btw, imo the cold war analysis has its limitations.
i came to believe that we are most to blamee than any outsider. i dont deny the foreign manioulation, but ibelieve that it is kind of exagurated
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cype
I have studied Cyprus for many years wondering what happened and slowly I complied many things that people do not know about Politics and thanks for asking about this question:
Many people don't know that it is not simple for ENOSIS and things like that: I will keep it simple:

The infrastructure ( Power Station, Ports, Trains ect) in the most Commonwealth countries was done by the British:
Some has to pay it back to them: The Australian constitution and bill of rights is in England: We have the queen on our money4y we can not get rid of her until it is fully paid:

Look at Fiji: Rambuka flew to England asked the government how much Fiji owed for the infrastructure and paid in full took and Constitution amended it to say that only Fijian with Fijian blood can vote and BINGO: Fiji rules Fiji:

England after WW2 asked Greece to pay and Greece had no money BUT thought of making the people fight for Independence BUT the British still keep the bases: WHY? For the money Cyprus owes: Some say the Cypriots built the Power Stations, Roads ect Maybe BUT they were paid to do it but the main infrastructure was supplied by Britain: Even Australia still has until 2025 I heard before we can ask for Independence:
One more thing in 1974 Turkey easily could of taken Nicosia but Why didn't it? Because then Turkey had to pay England and turkey was like Greece BROKE!

Politics: There is more to it than meets the eye:
PS Some countries have taken Independence by force by Britain usually makes them pay one WAY or the OTHER!
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