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erolz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

respiridus wrote:
but this does make you wonder about the quality of some UPSs out there...


Yeah.

In theory my UPS should have stopped anythin potentialy damaging to the PC powerwise from actually reaching the PC at all. Clearly it has not done this. Maybe it is just not a very good UPS (thought it was not cheap) or maybe I am just expecting too much from it. Most PC equipment I buy in the UK when I visit, as the choice and price here are never as good as in the UK. However UPS' by their very nature are heavy (containg lead acid batteries). In the UK I would only ever buy a UPS from the market leaders 'APC'. However here you have to buy what the shop has or nothing at all and usually pretty quickly for the chances are the shop will no longer have said item next week or necessarily ever have the same item again in the future.

I am currently investigating the cost of sort of 'mains line conditioner' for all the mains comming into my house, though my understanding was this was one of things a UPS is supposed to do anyway (for the devices attached to it).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am currently investigating the cost of sort of 'mains line conditioner' for all the mains comming into my house, though my understanding was this was one of things a UPS is supposed to do anyway (for the devices attached to it).


Speaking of mains line: Another thing you should check is your meter. If you live in an old house that has a electro-mechanical meter (as opposed to a modern electronic one), you may be in trouble. Last summer, I used to get constant brownouts at home, because I had 3-4 air conditioners running, and the meter couldn't cope. I'm sure it was the meter because I stood by the mains box and I could hear its gears grown every few seconds, and all brownouts happened during a grown. It made my PC reboot a few times.

Now, I'm faced with the daunting task of actually convincing EAC to come and change the meter before next summer...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gday Erol, I think that the problem lies at the input side of the p/s...if it was at the output side of the p/s then the motherboard would have been damaged as well...

To avoid the p/s from blowing up you could replace the fuse in the p/s with a lower rating fuse so it blows first.

Another solution is to install a safety switch in the mains box at the house...this will cut off power to the power point if it detects leakage of upto 100mA...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ez i would find a way to cut out the amount of dust in the room.
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respiridus

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ez i would find a way to cut out the amount of dust in the room.


Hehe, I once saw a PC whose insides were covered in .5cm of mud. And it still worked!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dust can be problematic for PCs. It can lead to damaging heat build up and it can also lead to corrosion of contacts between components.

Having said that Cyprus is a dusty place, and it's hard to avoid it anywhere, inside or out Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

respiridus wrote:
Now, I'm faced with the daunting task of actually convincing EAC to come and change the meter before next summer...


Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cannedmoose wrote:
respiridus wrote:
Now, I'm faced with the daunting task of actually convincing EAC to come and change the meter before next summer...


Embarassed


No. Bondage or bash head would be more appropriate for these guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*wonders what you lot are on about - gets distracted by a shiny object in the distance*
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash Test Dummy wrote:
*wonders what you lot are on about - gets distracted by a shiny object in the distance*


EAC = Electricity Authority of Cyprus
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im my house before i moved my dad got some dodgey electrician to change the wiring so that the clocks did not work.

the meter was in the garage full of bikes and roller blades so they would only ever come back the next day when we cleared to read the dials. used to roll it forwars a bit and hey presto.


dam them new clocks you cant fiddle with.

in my uncles factory he put a screw in the dial on all the meters so it spun round slower saving him money.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in my uncles factory he put a screw in the dial on all the meters so it spun round slower saving him money.


Has your uncle gotten out of jail yet? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, down for 25 years, he killed the meter guy Laughing Laughing

loads of these types of 'mafies' were going on. not anymore its all digital.

i know a guy that used to have a merc from new. he used to get his brother in law to clock it before every MOT.

sold it with about 60k when he really done about 160k Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Custom PC magazine recomends a "Tagan TG480-U01"
power supply.

480w, 12v rail, 28A. 80mm fan
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