| Should we have a 5 year presidency or should we adopt a seven year presidency like France? |
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| Somewhere in between |
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| Less than 5 |
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| More than 7 |
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| Or Turkmenbashi style "President for life" |
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Bullika
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Should we have a 5 year presidency or should we adopt a seven year presidency like France?
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| Depends on the Presidency... if it's a powerful Presidency like France, there needs to be more checks on Presidential power. The French system is unbalanced in that respect. If however, it was a 'constitutional monarch' type Presidency, then a single term of 7 years would be fine, given that the President would have no real power beyond power of representation. As for your option of 'president for life'... never... I have issues with some of the Republic of Cyprus political parties who retain their original leaders as 'honarary president', it's anathema in a democracy. |
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| If it is a powerful presidency maximum 2 terms of 5 years each or maximum 1 term of 7 years. |
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THe system in france has changed now, and presidents serve only 5 years a term, in line with the Parliament.
This was so that 'cohabitation'(when the president and the largest party in government are from different ideological positions, eg RPR/SP) does not occur.
now though thechanges have lead to the President having more power because he can do almost whatever he wants, as the largest party in government is his own one!
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Bullika
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| More close to home we had problems with Denkers trying to cohabitate with Eroglu too and before that. |
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| I think it should be less than 5 years. |
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Bullika
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| yeah but isnt the problem with that that the elected president cant deliver his mandate to the people due to lack of time. |
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| MEHMET_OSMAN_KKTC wrote: |
| yeah but isnt the problem with that that the elected president cant deliver his mandate to the people due to lack of time. |
Im sure if its the right mandate he can deliver in 4 years imo. |
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| brother wrote: |
| MEHMET_OSMAN_KKTC wrote: |
| yeah but isnt the problem with that that the elected president cant deliver his mandate to the people due to lack of time. |
Im sure if its the right mandate he can deliver in 4 years imo. |
This is one of those very rare times I disagree with my excellent brother. I don't think that 4 years are enough to promulgate and implement a plan. |
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brother
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| Xenos 2Fan wrote: |
| brother wrote: |
| MEHMET_OSMAN_KKTC wrote: |
| yeah but isnt the problem with that that the elected president cant deliver his mandate to the people due to lack of time. |
Im sure if its the right mandate he can deliver in 4 years imo. |
This is one of those very rare times I disagree with my excellent brother. I don't think that 4 years are enough to promulgate and implement a plan. |
But how can an extra year make much difference, imo its like saying how long is a piece of string.
All i am saying that keeping some one in the same position for too long can be as harmful as good, i use R.Denktas as my example. |
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| I fundamentally agree with you brother. People running for president or prime minister should only be allowed to run once or twice in their life time. Not as many time as they please. That is why I like the American system. After Bush's term expires he will nevr be allowed to run for office again. Thank God! |
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| Xenos 2Fan wrote: |
| I fundamentally agree with you brother. People running for president or prime minister should only be allowed to run once or twice in their life time. Not as many time as they please. That is why I like the American system. After Bush's term expires he will nevr be allowed to run for office again. Thank God! |
The problem with such a system is that it makes the executive a lame duck in their second term, or at least in the second half of their second term when everyone is fighting over their seat. Look at Blair now that he's done the unprecedented and told the nation he will not lead the Labour party into the next election, his authority is eroding, people within his party are already aligning themselves into camps etc. Plus, a term limit also brings us to the 'unlikely' scenario of an incredibly popular and successful executive being forced from office and replaced with someone less able. I think we need to be careful with things like this. Still, in my forthcoming term, it's not the President, but a Prime Minister and Cabinet, so I already have my issues with the current set-up in the Republic of Cyprus. |
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| cannedmoose wrote: |
| Xenos 2Fan wrote: |
| I fundamentally agree with you brother. People running for president or prime minister should only be allowed to run once or twice in their life time. Not as many time as they please. That is why I like the American system. After Bush's term expires he will nevr be allowed to run for office again. Thank God! |
The problem with such a system is that it makes the executive a lame duck in their second term, or at least in the second half of their second term when everyone is fighting over their seat. Look at Blair now that he's done the unprecedented and told the nation he will not lead the Labour party into the next election, his authority is eroding, people within his party are already aligning themselves into camps etc. Plus, a term limit also brings us to the 'unlikely' scenario of an incredibly popular and successful executive being forced from office and replaced with someone less able. I think we need to be careful with things like this. Still, in my forthcoming term, it's not the President, but a Prime Minister and Cabinet, so I already have my issues with the current set-up in the Republic of Cyprus. |
I like the American system because there is room for new blood and new ideas and less likely of a chance to create Dinosaurs such as Tpap and Denktas. Great presidents will emerge albeit few and far inbetween and that is when these limits would hinder the development of a country. You must admit that most presidents just are not very good for their country. |
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| Xenos 2Fan wrote: |
| cannedmoose wrote: |
| Xenos 2Fan wrote: |
| I fundamentally agree with you brother. People running for president or prime minister should only be allowed to run once or twice in their life time. Not as many time as they please. That is why I like the American system. After Bush's term expires he will nevr be allowed to run for office again. Thank God! |
The problem with such a system is that it makes the executive a lame duck in their second term, or at least in the second half of their second term when everyone is fighting over their seat. Look at Blair now that he's done the unprecedented and told the nation he will not lead the Labour party into the next election, his authority is eroding, people within his party are already aligning themselves into camps etc. Plus, a term limit also brings us to the 'unlikely' scenario of an incredibly popular and successful executive being forced from office and replaced with someone less able. I think we need to be careful with things like this. Still, in my forthcoming term, it's not the President, but a Prime Minister and Cabinet, so I already have my issues with the current set-up in the Republic of Cyprus. |
I like the American system because there is room for new blood and new ideas and less likely of a chance to create Dinosaurs such as Tpap and Denktas. Great presidents will emerge albeit few and far inbetween and that is when these limits would hinder the development of a country. You must admit that most presidents just are not very good for their country. |
Tatli kardesim speaks the truth. |
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Thank you my excellent brother.  |
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