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cannedmoose
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
I'm not Turkish but it is rolled although when it's at the end of the word it makes quite a strange sound, and that's where I need help. It's like a rolled 'r' but breathing (like pronouncing a 'h') and the same time and some would mis-hear it as a 'sh'. Turkish-speakers help us!


That stems from its middle-eastern roots... arabic has a similar 'breathy' sound to 'R' at the end of words...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cannedmoose wrote:
Leon wrote:
I'm not Turkish but it is rolled although when it's at the end of the word it makes quite a strange sound, and that's where I need help. It's like a rolled 'r' but breathing (like pronouncing a 'h') and the same time and some would mis-hear it as a 'sh'. Turkish-speakers help us!


That stems from its middle-eastern roots... arabic has a similar 'breathy' sound to 'R' at the end of words...


No! Turkish "R" has nothing with the arabic one or "h"!

We can say it is similar to the "r" in real.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detailer wrote:
No! Turkish "R" has nothing with the arabic one or "h"!

We can say it is similar to the "r" in real.


It doesn't? I'm sure when I've listened to Turkish people speak I've noticed a resemblance... maybe it was just the people concerned.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think any other language has an 'r' like the English one. Go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/quickfix/turkish.shtml. Click on 'hayιr'. The 'r' is definately how I said it.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard somewhere the human brain is unable to distinguish different sounds of letters after the age of 12 so its almost impossibel to become phonetically fluent in a foreign language if you didnt start learning it before that age. however, that doesnt mean we shoudl give up Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aparently when the great Ataturk wanted to replace the Ottoman Turkish spoken by the elite, he wanted to replace it with Istanbul Turkish and for people to speak it well they had to "imitate the way the ladies of Istanbul spoke". Consult Georffrey Lewis book called the Turkish Language Reform, Oxford University Press.

Cypriot Turkish on the other hand I feel always sounds like Spanish, since it is pronounced using vibrations in the glottis (voice box) much like Cypriot Greek.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know what ..... since learning spanish, it has an uncanny resemblance to greek in pronouciation, and the way words sound. It has helped me alot to sound like a real Spaniard Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pronounce "r" as you would in english, its not a guttural a "r"
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