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cannedmoose Warnings : 4 Moderator

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 5357 Location: National Forest, England
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| I'm not Turkish but it is rolled although when it's at the end of the word it makes quite a strange sound, and that's where I need help. It's like a rolled 'r' but breathing (like pronouncing a 'h') and the same time and some would mis-hear it as a 'sh'. Turkish-speakers help us! |
That stems from its middle-eastern roots... arabic has a similar 'breathy' sound to 'R' at the end of words... |
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detailer
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 473 Location: UK
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| cannedmoose wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| I'm not Turkish but it is rolled although when it's at the end of the word it makes quite a strange sound, and that's where I need help. It's like a rolled 'r' but breathing (like pronouncing a 'h') and the same time and some would mis-hear it as a 'sh'. Turkish-speakers help us! |
That stems from its middle-eastern roots... arabic has a similar 'breathy' sound to 'R' at the end of words... |
No! Turkish "R" has nothing with the arabic one or "h"!
We can say it is similar to the "r" in real. |
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cannedmoose Warnings : 4 Moderator

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 5357 Location: National Forest, England
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| detailer wrote: |
No! Turkish "R" has nothing with the arabic one or "h"!
We can say it is similar to the "r" in real. |
It doesn't? I'm sure when I've listened to Turkish people speak I've noticed a resemblance... maybe it was just the people concerned. |
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Leon
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 240 Location: England
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magikthrill
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Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 630 Location: NYC
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i heard somewhere the human brain is unable to distinguish different sounds of letters after the age of 12 so its almost impossibel to become phonetically fluent in a foreign language if you didnt start learning it before that age. however, that doesnt mean we shoudl give up  |
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Bullika Warnings : 1 Ministerial

Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 3025 Location: World
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Aparently when the great Ataturk wanted to replace the Ottoman Turkish spoken by the elite, he wanted to replace it with Istanbul Turkish and for people to speak it well they had to "imitate the way the ladies of Istanbul spoke". Consult Georffrey Lewis book called the Turkish Language Reform, Oxford University Press.
Cypriot Turkish on the other hand I feel always sounds like Spanish, since it is pronounced using vibrations in the glottis (voice box) much like Cypriot Greek. |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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you know what ..... since learning spanish, it has an uncanny resemblance to greek in pronouciation, and the way words sound. It has helped me alot to sound like a real Spaniard  |
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Bullika Warnings : 1 Ministerial

Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 3025 Location: World
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| pronounce "r" as you would in english, its not a guttural a "r" |
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