Turkish Cypriot airlines to fly directly to Baku

boomerang · Deputy Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 1133 Location: Melbourne

Buddy not a very good example...The Taiwan situation is much different...One day it will be part of China and then you will run out of humorous arguments...Can't compare the two....much different situations.

The fact is Turkey is extording the Azeris for such moves and you know it...Another question for you is where were the Turks when your boozom buddies were being evacuated from their lands by the Armenians?...Or you think the Azeris forgot about this?...yeah sure, what a forgiving race.

It's absurd that a country that has lost land through aggression to support a country that occupies land in another country through aggression.

Please stop trying to justify this with comparisons between an F1 car and a bloody trolley.lol

Yeah you better stop...

cannedmoose · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:53 am Post subject:

Haven't been able to find out much detail so far, but Taiwan, like Northern Cyprus are excluded from the ICAO, so in legal terms airlines should not be able to fly-in, fly-out of Taiwan's airport facilities as they are not recognised. I'm not sure if Taiwan's position is historical in that until 1971 they were almost universally recognised as the official government of mainland China, whereafter recognition shifted to the PRC and Taiwan has seen the exodus of most foreign embassies. However, since it was already an airline destination, it may well be a simple practical continuum for airlines to fly to Taiwan. I'm trying to find more info, but it doesn't even appear that direct flights from foreign airports to Taiwan even feature as an issue between Taiwan and the PRC.

MicAtCyp · Senior Villager Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 313

Anyway I beleive the discussion did not really clarify the connection between recognition and flights. All I know so far is that Az/an will not fly directly to the Oas. How and why it changed it's mind and on what legal grounds I am not sure.

About Taiwan, I have some information which might be useful.No guarantees for their accuracy as most are out of memory and I might be wrong on some points.

Taiwan did not start as a non recognised state! In fact for a long time it was considered the only recognised government of China because thats where the Government of China went after they were kicked out by the Communists. At some stage the Communist government of China got the seat in the UN and Taiwan lost it! However due to claims of China, Taiwan did not get recognised as a separate Country.In fact that was never the TaiwanProb (i.e for Taiwan to be a separate Country) their problem was who represents the Chinese people. On the other hand China herself used Taiwan all the time to be her export office due to the massive concentration of merchants and foreign bussiness there.In this respect China let the ports and Airports of Taiwan keep their legality.... This bussiness relation continued up until 4-5 years ago, in fact today China does all her exports by herself.Taiwan is in desparate situation today because it always depended on China, they never produced ANYTHING themselves. Just go to any supermarket to any computer shop. There is nothing "made in Taiwan" anymore.Everything is "made in China". On the other hand there are Nationalists in Taiwan who even get upset when you call their country "Taiwan". They interrupt you saying no we are "Republic of China", in fact most nationalists want to rejoin China no matter if they get communist. It is also very usual for Taiwanese to go live back to China for some years and then come back, although I am not sure if the reverse is possible i.e for Chinese to go live in Taiwan

So i beleive any comparison with the OAs is completely irrelevant. Oh and by the way Taiwan did not kick out of their homes and lands the Chinese, and then asked to be a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. The only similarity I seen is that their full name is TRoC!! (=Taiwan, Republic of China)

cannedmoose · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject:

BBC report on the Ercan-Baku flight.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4192270.stm

Dhavlos · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject:

to bad the BBC havent put talkcyprus as one of their links, but if we all email them, they may be inclined to look at the website. I already have sent one, heres a link for people to do so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4030000/newsid_4032600/4032695.stm

cant do any harm if we ask the BBC nicely to think about using us as a link.

cannedmoose · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject:

Depends if there are any Cypriots working in BBC news online... I'm sure someone will know one if there are... Laughing

brother · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:

Three more Turkic countries are reportedly ready to launch flights to the occupied areas of Cyprus
Turkish Cypriot daily ORTAM newspaper (05.09.05) reports that Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are preparing to realize flights to the occupied areas of Cyprus. According to the paper, as a result of secret talks between officials of the occupation regime and the above-mentioned states, the visits are expected to be realized after 18 September, when the second flight from Azerbaijan to the illegal Tymbou airport is expected to take place. State officials, businessmen and journalists are expected to participate in the second Azeri flight.

This flight will reportedly be followed by the visits from Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. The delegations will be consisting of state officials, businessmen and journalists. After the visits, notes ORTAM, a Turkish Cypriot delegation will go to the above mentioned countries on an airplane of the illegal Turkish Cypriot Airlines.

While an agreement was reached for the first flights with other Turkic states after Azerbaijan, it has been known that this will be mutual. It is alleged that during the visits mutual business possibilities will be searched and efforts will be exerted in order to make the business agreements that efforts are exerted to be made with Azerbaijan, writes ORTAM noting that according to the information obtained the Republican Turkish Party as well will undertake an active role in these visits.

Sorry i had to post the whole story but could not get just this articles link but for those that want to read it from its origin please goto the 'Hellenic resources network ' link is available on the news thread.

Bullika · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:49 am Post subject:

who the hell wants to fly to Baku. And just where is Azerbaijan?

Bullika · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:50 am Post subject:

once we have flights to Las Vegas or Amsterdam then we know we're in business.