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100%cypriot
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In its 2006 report on terrorism released on Tuesday, the US State Department claimed that the Kongra Gel/Kurdistan Workers' Party (KGK/PKK) maintained an active presence throughout Cyprus and reportedly used the island as both a fundraising and transit point.
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http://lgr.co.uk/news/cyprus/6913/report-blasts-cyprus%e2%80%99-pkk-links/
Very Interesting Piece About Terrorist Funding From the South against Turkey , what do they say " An Enemy of My Enemy is My Ally " |
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-mikkie2-
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This thing with the PKK is getting stupid.
There are/were claims that there are PKK training camps in the south which is complete nonsense. In a country where everyone knows everyone and if you so much even sneeze a relative or friend on the other side of the island will know about it, it is preposterous that you can hide such things. Even the governemt wouldn't be so stupid to support such activities on its soil.
The state department report did not differentiate between north and south of the island. Now in the north I dont know what the situation is.
In the south there is no way that there are terrorist camps or such like or even fundraisers. I do not think that the Kurds are our 'friends' as they use the situation in Cyprus to promote their agenda in Turkey - ie independance of kurdish regions in Turkey/Iraq/Syria/Iran. |
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Mete
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The state department report did not differentiate between north and south of the island. Now in the north I dont know what the situation is.
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A PKK camp in the north with 40.000 soldiers watching?? I don't think si. |
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depurple
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There are my friends! I agree!
Look at Clerides and Denktash you could get bigger terrorists than them!
And while you are there maybe TPapa WHO let CIA flights via Cyprus to CUBA!
As for the PKK????????
There are being trained at the moment BY you know who the USA! TO help divide Turkey!
Also you cant tell me that Turkey doesn't train Chechnyas and Turkman! EVERYONE know this!
So WHO are the REAL terrorists my BLIND friends!
cheers! |
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Xenos 2Fan
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| -mikkie2- wrote: |
This thing with the PKK is getting stupid.
There are/were claims that there are PKK training camps in the south which is complete nonsense. In a country where everyone knows everyone and if you so much even sneeze a relative or friend on the other side of the island will know about it, it is preposterous that you can hide such things. Even the governemt wouldn't be so stupid to support such activities on its soil.
The state department report did not differentiate between north and south of the island. Now in the north I dont know what the situation is.
In the south there is no way that there are terrorist camps or such like or even fundraisers. I do not think that the Kurds are our 'friends' as they use the situation in Cyprus to promote their agenda in Turkey - ie independance of kurdish regions in Turkey/Iraq/Syria/Iran. |
Mikkie,
I think you're a fairly noble person and you have a difficult time entertaining the notion that southern Cyprus could be involved in these ignoble activities. No matter how noble an individual is, do not put it past your government to aid and abet in these adventures. Take care. |
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100%cypriot
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Was the Leader of the PKK found with a Cypriot Passport ?
Yes
Was Cyprus used by him as a safe haven ?
Yes
Does The Church in Greece and Cyprus Raise Fund's for the PKK ?
Yes
Does the Tpap Gov give Asylum for PKK Terrorists ?
Yes
and to say that the PKK have training Camps in the North is totall Rubbish , The Troops would Skin them alive |
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Kifeas
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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| ......, The Troops would ....... |
Am I right to suppose this is one of the ways a typical stupid-proud Turkish nationalist would refer to the Turkish armed forces?
No offence meant “100%cypriot” but, don’t you think you have picked an entirely inappropriate nickname to appear in the forums?
Besides your undoubted pride for the profoundly overly exhibitionistic and impressionistic Turkish armed forces, what else do you have to cite in favor of justifying such an enormous Turkish pride that you seem to be overwhelmed with?
PS:
Besides learning how to “paint” Cypriot mountains with “NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYEN” slogans, did you also have to learn the “goose-step” marching, during your service in The Troops? |
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Kifeas
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This is what "Answers.com" has to say about "goose-step!"
-A straight-legged style of military marching used by the armies of several nations, but associated particularly with the army of Germany under the Nazis.
-The term is sometimes used to suggest the unthinking loyalty of followers or soldiers: “Brown has a goose-step mentality.” |
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Kifeas
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Even more interesting is what is contained in Wikipedia's article about "Goose-stepping."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose-Step
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..... Some, such as George Orwell, feel that the goose-step is also intended to look ridiculous, as Orwell said in his 1940 book The Lion and the Unicorn:
“ [Goose-Stepping] is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is "Yes, I am ugly, and you daren't laugh at me", like the bully who makes faces at his victim… Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army. ”
The Guinness book of military blunders reports that the goose-step was invented by a British Army officer who wanted a march that would tell him immediately if any of his men were drunk.
Goose-stepping is commonly associated today with the German armed forces of the Reichswehr and of the Wehrmacht. However, other armies have historically practiced goose-stepping or similar variations, such as the Imperial Russian Army. Benito Mussolini introduced it in 1938 as Passo Romano ("Roman step") in the Italian army. |
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erolz
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Mete
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Hey I'd rather "goose-step" than wear those skirts!  |
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Kifeas
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Are you saying that what those guards are doing in the clip is what "goose-stepping" is? Unfortunately for you, it isn't! It is just an established rhythmic and timed way of stretching themselves out due to the long time they have to remain still. "Goose-step" requires that knees do not fold and the heel crushing the floor. Hardly any resemblance to what those guards are in fact doing.
This is just a photo for you to see how "goose-stepping" looks like, and also another interesting article on the subject.
http://www.slate.com/id/2077384/
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Khan
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"The skirt has 300 folds, one for each year of Turkish occupation..."
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Kifeas
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| Are you saying that what those guards are doing in the clip is what "goose-stepping" is? |
No I am not saying that.
What I am suggesting is that for someone who is culturally linked to such embarrassments of marching as these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qitH8RrFiUg&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxYfi8j6890&mode=related&search=
you might have chosen a better way to try and pervert and distract a thread from it's actual topic, which was Republic of Cyprus support for Kurdish terrorism, than to start a discussion on the goose step march - which has as much to do with the topic as the above clips have to do with goose stepping.
Anyone crazy enough to go into battle wearing pom poms like that on their feet would certainly strike fear into my heart that's for sure. |
If there is one thing pervert, it surely is the idolization of the Turkish army (sorry ...The Troops) by some of you here! It obviously stems from the fact that you do not seem to have much more things Turkish to be proud of!
And no, they won’t go in battle wearing those "pom poms" on their feet! It is just a tradition, just like the clip below is for Turks (sorry, Attila the huns’) …and their fake mustaches!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHeifpSeMo |
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stavrizatz
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100% Cypriot wrote:
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Was the Leader of the PKK found with a Cypriot Passport ?
Yes
Was Cyprus used by him as a safe haven ?
Yes
Does The Church in Greece and Cyprus Raise Fund's for the PKK ?
Yes
Does the Tpap Gov give Asylum for PKK Terrorists ?
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And so... any responsible government will help PKK in their fight for justice. As previously discussed one's man terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. Kurdish people have been fighting for years and to me it is clear who I should support. Turkey commited crimes on humanity far worst than any PKK and KGK. |
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