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Dream_Merchant · Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 422 Location: Limassol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7367780.stm

Quote: The UN refugee agency (UNHCR) has accused Turkish police of causing the deaths of four men by forcing them into a river on the Turkey-Iraq border.

The strong current swept the men away, the UNHCR said, quoting witnesses.

Ahh.. just like the good old days of 1915. It worked back then, it still works now! Nothing like a small example to refresh how it was like. What a performance! Bravo! Bravo!

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2876 Location: Australia

Hey I'm BACK!
Is this the Turkey that wants to join the EU?
Well there are a lot of rivers for them to force people into!
cheers
Turkey? EU? What a JOKE!

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:40 am Post subject:

depurple wrote: Hey I'm BACK!
Is this the Turkey that wants to join the EU?
Well there are a lot of rivers for them to force people into!
cheers
Turkey? EU? What a JOKE!

You are such a political scientist.

Xenos 2Fan

Dream_Merchant wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7367780.stm

Quote: The UN refugee agency (UNHCR) has accused Turkish police of causing the deaths of four men by forcing them into a river on the Turkey-Iraq border.

The strong current swept the men away, the UNHCR said, quoting witnesses.

Ahh.. just like the good old days of 1915. It worked back then, it still works now! Nothing like a small example to refresh how it was like. What a performance! Bravo! Bravo!

You know all. You are an idiot, man.

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2876 Location: Australia

Xenos 2Fan
The sooner Turkey starts thinking like a European and NOT like the Ottomans the sooner they may get to first base in the EU!
That's IF they want to Join because every now and then they come up with an idiotic saying like!
Turkey doesn't need the EU the EU needs Turkey!
What a joke!
The EU needs Turkey?
What for?
Tell what Turkey has that the EU hasn't got?
Except the Military ruling the Government!
cheers!
PS And Anzac cove!

city · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3370 Location: Larnaca area

depurple wrote: ..Tell what Turkey has that the EU hasn't got?
a relatively young population/workforce
most other EU members have an aging population,a fact that increasingly creates problems for production, pension funds, health insurance systems etc etc etc

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2876 Location: Australia

City personally I think Turkey will be a burden on the EU:
As for the work force?
How many Turks really work in Turkey?
Will they work in the EU or start to claim welfare, insurance and other benefits!
Someone told me 50% of the Turks in Germany are on welfare!
cheers!
PS Don't feel sad! 80% of Greeks are on welfare in Australia!
cheers again!

Dream_Merchant · Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 422 Location: Limassol

city wrote: depurple wrote: ..Tell what Turkey has that the EU hasn't got?
a relatively young population/workforce
most other EU members have an aging population,a fact that increasingly creates problems for production, pension funds, health insurance systems etc etc etc

and relatively uneducated, relatively xenophobic, relatively non-conformist, relatively middle eastern and well.. lets say that quantity isnt everything.. after all we are not talking about workhorses, we are talking about people

Turks don't assimilate, look at Germany.. they have been there for god knows how long and most of them cant even speak and write proper German.. or is 'Alter' becoming part of canon?

Now I am not saying that there isnt the educated and european valued Turk, surely there is. But the vast majority aint.

Case closed.

Turkey goes in Europe when Turkey becomes European.

And why do you think Europe has an aging population? Because of all those social provision we tend to live longer than the average Turk who either kills his 15 year old daughter for getting herself raped or gets himself killed stepping on a land mine while burning some random Kurdish house.

city · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3370 Location: Larnaca area

well, this is a huge topic and I think you are generalising too much here.

There are historical reasons why the Turkish community in Germany does not integrate. When the first people went to Germany some decades ago no effort whatsoever were made by the German state to integrate them cause it wasn't actually planned that they stayed. Plus there was no need to learn the language, not for the job and not for the social life. They just sticked to each other. As most people do that are in a foreign country. And since then not much has changed.
Of course the younger generations do speak German but still some can get on without knowing proper German.
Especially when not working, or not working in a German company. There are quite a lot of Turkish entrepreneurs by now. And they do well.

The European demographics is another issue and surely longer life expectation is not the sole reason. There are also cost of living, insufficient availability of places in Kindergartens in most countries, higher number of working women (hence lack of time) etc etc

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2876 Location: Australia

City how come so many other migrants have integrated so well in German? And the Turks could not?
cheers!