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[repulsewarrior]

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Manifesto for a virgin birth based on the Principals of our Constitution (that of 1960) for a Governance which is Bicommunal, and a redress for all Displaced Persons.


A letter to:

Christofias Demetris, President of the Republic of Cyprus
Mehemet Ali Talat, Cumhurbaskani (KKTC)
To all the Citizens of the island of Cyprus

I offer my humble observations in the hope that they may be a guide toward a solution which is a demonstration of our Humanity, as Cypriots.

As a basis of negociation there is a long history of resolutions, and proposals toward the Problem and its Solution.

For close to half a century we have struggled to define the meaning of that basic principal in our Constitution which makes our identity bicommunal. Bizonal has been less clear to us, as to meaning, and although it is the most important issue, land, we are far from clearing this impasse.

In my Cyprus the meaning of these words are clear.
And I believe, their consideration was well chosen by Makarios and Denktash.

Bizonal means two parts; with each part made up of components.

Bicommunal means two levels of government; in our case three governing bodies.

Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, has had a dysfunctional government from its advent. For whatever reasons, enclaves became a part of our geography, allowing for distinctions to form where Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots would grow apart. Now the displaced are measured in hundreds of thousands and the occupation by the Turkish Army remains, with the hope it will withdraw, when there exists reforms that Cypriots make for themselves as equal with a sense that their governance shall sustain them.

In my Cyprus the line which divides it in two would remain.

In my Cyprus some of the displaced shall return as communities, and all displaced shall have the Right of Return.

In my Cyprus in voting, in any election, people are defined by their residence, not by their ethnicity.

In my Cyprus a strong Central Government, with its Executive, and an Independent Judiciary will be Sovereign in defending our identities as individuals, our Individual Rights, and the Heritance which makes the island’s culture wealthy, beyond the interests of any single community of persons.

In my Cyprus there are two National Assemblies, where citizens represent themselves as persons, to have Jurisdiction over Territories defined, each as a Zone, providing to these electors the services they need in their daily lives in a manner where, they can as a majority sustain themselves first, while recognising their grace and providing for the special needs of minoroities amongst them.

In my Cyprus, enclaves, like jewels will be scattered across its map. Famagusta will be opened, Girne will remain, Komi Kebir will thrive, and a new township will be founded by Turkish Cypriots near Paphos.

In my Cyprus there is no need for the Military, even if there are many frontiers.







A Unitary State exists which which is in need of reform. The Principal of Bicommunality must be demonstrated as a useful political tool when people share a land and an identity between them. Cyprus is an island, afterall.

I imagine a Bicameral Legislature for the Government of our State. I imagine an Upper House, its seats divided equally between Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot representatives. I imagine a Lower House whose seats are filled by representatives Independent of National Parties, proportionally elected, who through their speaker choose amongst them voting members for all the Government Committees where they have seats, debating Legislation, and voting by consensus

A Leader, to win the Presidency, through his Party must gain a majority of seats in the Upper House. Thus, his/her ethnicity is of no importance having to provide candidates to fill all the seats.

The voter shall vote thricely, once from each of three slates: an Independent, a Turkish Cypriot, and a Greek Cypriot representative.

Futuristically, over 200 years, we must consider having a population of 12 million. The mono clonal tendancies of today, when isolation is removed, and when our EU membership is beyond its advent, will no longer resist the changes of a world far more associated, and I hope at peace in the Middle East, and Africa. Bicommunality will allow us to choose as persons our identity, while as individuals equal we will seek to work toward our betterment as Human beings embracing the changes the future brings in our demographics as the most Socialised Country in the World..

Without our representation in National Assemblies we cannot provide to our culture another facet which enriches it, nor can its two counterparts be sustained any other way.

With a Unitary State we represent ourselves as this island’s dwellers, our expression as Human beings toward acts of betterment above any Nationality, as the Stewards for this Heritage, for the love of its trees, and of its relics, that are even older than the cultures in which we wish to sustain ourselves, (to Neolithic times). This history if you are Cypriot is interwoven in your own. It is a single line unbroken; we can remain great cooperators, yet for the first time in thousands of years, we can be free from subjugation.

Rise up citizen, if you disagree with my proposal, choose one that is better, and more Just.

Send it to our leaders, they need our help now.

My name is repulsewarrior, and as a citizen of the world you can find me on google.

Cyprus: three governments; One Capital, and Free.









...would you support this as a basis of negociation between the two leaders? are there corrections which should be made? will you sign this letter with me? do you think that Turkey will withdraw her Army,recognising the Sovereignty of this State? Is there a Solution which is better or more Just.?

[stavrizatz]

Hey RW,
the basis of negotiations is allready there and it was signed by Makarios and Denktash in 77. No matter how unfair/undemocratic/racist a Bizonal, Bicommunal federation is, it is widely accepted that a BBF is the basis of negotiations. As a residence of Cyprus I disagree but it is highly unlikely that any other proposals for 'solution' will be accepted as a new basis for negotiations. In Cyprus we have two major problems. 1. a problem between the two main ethnic groups and 2. a problem of illegal occupation of part of our country by a foreign power. No matter what we as Cypriots agree there is little that we can do to make Turkey withdraw from Cyprus. Your manifesto sounds great but I don't think that our leaders would ever bother with looking at something different, more fair more sustainable because the think within a frame.
gtg now, I'll write more later

[repulsewarrior]

defining, bizonal and bicommunal are the biggest hurdles toward a settlement. my hope is that it will be done in a manner which looks forward and in the very long run for its sustainability.

the island divided in much the same way as it is today provides no security, only no hostility, in the short run. it is not a measure of the populations' attachment to Cyprus, it is as though it is a land to be plundered by the self interests of whoever gets possession of it.

in that manner, as it is, while Turkey's design satisfies her desire to see the island impotent of any power to affect her interests, it does nothing to end the stagnation of the reforms this State needs to prosper, nor does it add anything to its esteem internationally, which is sought.

[repulsewarrior]

The objective is to define the meaning of Bicommunal, in a Unitary State.

Bizonal, in our case has been limited to geography, and defining it to our living will mean the displaced and those who will be displaced will need our consideration if it is that Justice is to be seen.

Fellow readers, the Manifesto is clear, and it is easy to understand. In Principal it fulfills our desire to live Free, and in Security within the bounds of a Rule of Law, and with the dignity to represent our best effort at Human Betterment.

...how will this political manifesto affect or effect you personally?

(It is not important what we think one side or the other will think, for the sake of this debate.)

i submit this thread for your further reading...

http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2484

[Crash Test Dummy]

Sorry to say it but creating a 'state type system' as seen in the US wont work.

You will end up with Greek States and Turkish States. And then the majority will rule and then you will be back to square one.

The ONLY solution top the problem is to remove the 'them & us' mentality people hold

[repulsewarrior]

allowing for a strong Unitary State, with its checks and balances, allows for the confidence which requires no 'them against us' mentality. being Bicommunal in Principal, it is necessary to recognise people as persons as well. rather than the State which sets this standard, they, the persons, will have the responsibility to demonstrate an inclusive nature, with a recognition of their own minorities amongst themselves, in two National Assemblies.

indeed within each society, there will be distinctions amongst the communities they represent, especially with the existence of enclaves in this zonal geography, but this diversity, in my mind adds to their vitality.

as a matter of fact ctd i disagree because thinking futuristicly, (the population is 7-12 times larger 100-200 years from now) two levels of government, three with municipalities is ideal.

yes it will be possible for each National Assembly, within the Federal framework to alter their zone, redefining it with additional enclaves within their own territory, when other nationalities gain a strength to sustain their own distinctions as persons, within these societies, (and "Greeks" most likely a minority in this demographic will face no threat, having a means to sustain themselves)

...we need an Identity as Cypriots, we want an identity which adds to this exclusivity, i see no solution except that which is being discussed, having three governing bodies...