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repulsewarrior



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: P.S. THE POPULATION OF CYPRUS IS ABOUT 12 MILLION  

I would like to propose to you that the city of Nicosia as we know it today will have a population of about ! million in forty years, it is entirely possible for Famagusta to swell the population with its opening, almost immediately, by another 250,000 people. Water that is potable is the greatest restriction to our growth. However if the strategic location of Cyprus is taken in mind, and recognising that this ability to function global exchange exists since millenia, we must be prepared to envision the future, which will be the natural evolution toward serving these needs.

So the question is this, dear readers, how much water does Cyprus have?

Without water as an issue, I would also like to know your ideas on population growth, potential figures for each city, based on which industry or service, where there is most likely growth in population, are there towns that will become cities, and which villages will become towns, if somehow a peace plan, from international players(as an example), created the solution to our plight, for an environment which is completely safe, freest, and a standard of living which continues to improve.
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Xenos 2Fan



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: P.S. THE POPULATION OF CYPRUS IS ABOUT 12 MILLION  

repulsewarrior wrote: I would like to propose to you that the city of Nicosia as we know it today will have a population of about ! million in forty years, it is entirely possible for Famagusta to swell the population with its opening, almost immediately, by another 250,000 people. Water that is potable is the greatest restriction to our growth. However if the strategic location of Cyprus is taken in mind, and recognising that this ability to function global exchange exists since millenia, we must be prepared to envision the future, which will be the natural evolution toward serving these needs.

So the question is this, dear readers, how much water does Cyprus have?

Without water as an issue, I would also like to know your ideas on population growth, potential figures for each city, based on which industry or service, where there is most likely growth in population, are there towns that will become cities, and which villages will become towns, if somehow a peace plan, from international players(as an example), created the solution to our plight, for an environment which is completely safe, freest, and a standard of living which continues to improve.

I believe that Turkey is solving the water problem of Cyprus by building a pipeline from the mainland to the north of the island.
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cannedmoose



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject:  

Am I the only one who's wondering what the point of this is? This is pie in the sky and has nothing to do with the Cyprob... hence why I'm moving it...

If this thread is intended to talk about water issues, you should make it clear... and the title is ridiculous, Cyprus will NEVER support a population of 12 million, in 2050 or 2200...
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depurple



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject:  

Who drinks water: I drink Achohol to conserve water and I also shower with a couple of women ONLY to save water:
Actually you use more by the time you F**K around in there with them:
Water in Cyprus is simple:
1:First build a storm water drainage system and collect the rain water and put into storage:
2: Make compulsory rain storage tanks in every house:
3: Have a recycling facility for the water system in a house so that you can use this water again to water the plants ect:
4: Desalination plants in every major city:
5: Also run a pipe under the sea from Turkey?, Lebanon?Egypt:
If the Russians can run a 5000KLs pipe can we run a 500 KLM one?
6: Drink your scotch straight not with ice!
7: There is this guy in Australia that made a machine that recycles urine and with everyone in Cyprus taking the piss out of everyone Else we will be flooded with water:
8: Pay the Greek Priest OR the Haj to prey to God for water:
9: Every 3 months grad an ice Berg from the North Poles and tow it to Larnaca:
10: Drink Fosters:
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cannedmoose



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject:  

1. Such a system exists, but when rain simply doesn't fall, as has been the case until recently... there is nothing to catch...
2. This is a good idea, I've seen rain bowsers in some houses, but certainly not all. My father is planning to install a couple of large tanks to collect rain water to use on the garden.
3. Again, a good idea.
4. Desalination is a very expensive process. I believe there is a mothballed desalination plant someone in the south, but they're not the answer unless you're prepared to pay through the nose.
5. Such a pipe is being installed between Turkey and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. It remains to be seen whether the Republic of Cyprus infrastructure will be allowed to hook into this pipe. Something tells me that given the climate between Turkey and the Republic of Cyprus, this won't happen anytime soon.
6. :roll:
7. :roll:
8. :roll:
9. :roll:
10. :roll:
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depurple



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject:  

CM What if the EU asked Turkey to supply water to Cyprus as a good will gesture like with the recent Power Plant compromise?
Would Turkey do it? OR would it just prove to the EU states who don't rust Turkey that what they say is that Turkey is not ready for the EU!
What is the possibilities of running a car engine on urine?
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cannedmoose



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject:  

Given that the water is a natural resource of Turkey, it would be solely up to her whether to provide the water to a third country. The EU is not in a position to demand that Turkey do so. It would be a commercial relationship between the two countries, nothing more.

As for the urine idea... go back to the drawing board...
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brother



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject:  

cannedmoose wrote: Given that the water is a natural resource of Turkey, it would be solely up to her whether to provide the water to a third country. The EU is not in a position to demand that Turkey do so. It would be a commercial relationship between the two countries, nothing more.

As for the urine idea... go back to the drawing board...

Can i say that i would be highly dissapointed if Turkey ever refused a request like that.
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repulsewarrior



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject:  

Turkey may sell the water as would others, in the future. Even more fiyer is a water exchange.

Those who doubt the potential of Cyprus to support the population I claim, take a dim view of our neighbors on three continents, the end of their hostilities, their needs, and our ability to provide these services.

What is outrageous if the population doubled in twenty years, that would be normal, so I ask the forum members for their serious consideration as well.
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Bullika



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: P.S. THE POPULATION OF CYPRUS IS ABOUT 12 MILLION  

repulsewarrior wrote: I would like to propose to you that the city of Nicosia as we know it today will have a population of about ! million in forty years, it is entirely possible for Famagusta to swell the population with its opening, almost immediately, by another 250,000 people. Water that is potable is the greatest restriction to our growth. However if the strategic location of Cyprus is taken in mind, and recognising that this ability to function global exchange exists since millenia, we must be prepared to envision the future, which will be the natural evolution toward serving these needs.

So the question is this, dear readers, how much water does Cyprus have?

Without water as an issue, I would also like to know your ideas on population growth, potential figures for each city, based on which industry or service, where there is most likely growth in population, are there towns that will become cities, and which villages will become towns, if somehow a peace plan, from international players(as an example), created the solution to our plight, for an environment which is completely safe, freest, and a standard of living which continues to improve.

If things stay as they are, with realestate development, I think one day soon Dherinia-Paralimni will be a city that will join up Ayia Napa and maybe go as far inland as Vrysoles.

I also think Girne / Kyrenia will be larger than Famagusta, and will be home to large English minority. I think in the future and Bogaz will be a town.
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boomerang



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject:  

To house 12 million people it will need a lot of land...Cyprus will have to import just about everything, similar to Japan



Quote: At Senbikiya, an upscale fruit shop in Nihonbashi in Tokyo, melon prices starts at ¥5,000 or $40, and rise as high as ¥20,000.

A box containing two bunches of grapes can also set back a shopper ¥5,000 yen, as can a matching set of four pears

I would hate to think what everything will cost.
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repulsewarrior



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject:  

Kyrenia may well become a British 'enclave', I imagine a great many will want to take this opportunity to create for themselves an environment where they are completely comfortable, somewhere they can get away from, and return to. It will most likely have a stong minority of Greeks as well. It's maritime facilities will expand greatly, and it will become an important port with facilities for shipping.

I also agree, that Bogasi will grow to have a population three times it's size very quickly after any settlement. With the infrastructure that exists, having crossed at this point historically, it has this great potential.

Can someone be kind enough to post a map to which we can refer, thank-you.
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repulsewarrior



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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject:  

Bullika, I just had a flash, can you imagine the nightlife in Girne/Kyrenia if it was part of the circuit, a Turkish hotspot on the tour of the evening. Anyway, I was really having a good time, for about one second less than the speed of light.
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Bullika



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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject:  

repulsewarrior wrote: Bullika, I just had a flash, can you imagine the nightlife in Girne/Kyrenia if it was part of the circuit, a Turkish hotspot on the tour of the evening. Anyway, I was really having a good time, for about one second less than the speed of light.

yes indeed.
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Crash Test Dummy



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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject:  

Prob a load of rubish but I was told that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus population is growing faster than that of Republic of Cyprus and in a few generations the island will have a 50/50 spilt of Greek Cypriot's to Turkish Cypriot's?
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