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Bananiot · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia

The people of Cyprus have spoken. Five years of darkness, five years of depressive recession to the ice age are over. You can all breath a breath of fresh air. Papadopoulos is no more. He is going home. For good!

Mete · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston

Wonderful news!!

copper · Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 19 Location: London UK

Yes he is gone and good riddance ! However, I feel both the remaining candidates are in it for the POSITION of President just like TPaps. If Christofias wins next Sunday AKEL would have entered a Presidential candidate for the very first and WON.Luvvly jubbly, why should the Communists not enjoy power and perhaps get drunk with power . After 48 years of Independence the largest party in Cyprus might be in power as from next Sunday. Why should they want to negotiate for a settlement with the Turkish Cypriots and run the risk of dissolving the Republic of Cyprus to become a 'component' state with EQUAL power with the Turkish Cypriots ?

And I regret to say I feel it is the same with Kasoulides who is in it for the POSITION too.

In effect the position of the Greek Cypriots will not be any different as regards to a solution of our 50 plus year old problem.

Londoner · Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 11

Lets hope its not another false dawn - peace and solution please, such a small and beutiful place deserves better

Kifeas · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:01 am Post subject:

copper wrote: Yes he is gone and good riddance ! However, I feel both the remaining candidates are in it for the POSITION of President just like TPaps. If Christofias wins next Sunday AKEL would have entered a Presidential candidate for the very first and WON.Luvvly jubbly, why should the Communists not enjoy power and perhaps get drunk with power . After 48 years of Independence the largest party in Cyprus might be in power as from next Sunday. Why should they want to negotiate for a settlement with the Turkish Cypriots and run the risk of dissolving the Republic of Cyprus to become a 'component' state with EQUAL power with the Turkish Cypriots ?

And I regret to say I feel it is the same with Kasoulides who is in it for the POSITION too.

In effect the position of the Greek Cypriots will not be any different as regards to a solution of our 50 plus year old problem.

Copper, the solution of the Cyprus problem does not require the dissolvent of the Republic of Cyprus! This was only the Anal plan's recipe, and the Turkish day dreaming positions! The solution of the Cyprus problem will easily come from the evolution of the Republic of Cyprus, from that of a bi-communal unitary state to that of a bi-communal and a bi-zonal federal state!

cypezokyli · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

well.
to say i didnot enjoy it, i would be lying. :lol:

it was a pretty straight forward message from gcypriots to tpap. not only he failed to receive the votes from the parties who supported him, he also failed to capitalize the fact that he was the president.

it is important to note though, that the third ( tpaps party) will determine the winner.
its not that important since it is the president who has the power.

any response from Turkish Cypriot parties, media, and society ?

stavrizatz · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:31 am Post subject:

It is a big victory for those who want progress and a big defeat for those who want the status quo. A big Victory for most Greek and Turkish Cypriots and a big defeat for Greek Cypriot nationalists, Turkey and Turkish settlers. Why because Papadopoullos with his attitudes managed to give the false impression that Greek Cypriots do not want the reunification of Cyprus. The two new canditates with new thoughts might make the difference, even so it is little that the Republic of Cyprus gov can do to resolve the Cyprop. To dance tango you need two, so let's see if Turkey is willing to dence.

copper wrote: Yes he is gone and good riddance ! However, I feel both the remaining candidates are in it for the POSITION of President just like TPaps. If Christofias wins next Sunday AKEL would have entered a Presidential candidate for the very first and WON.Luvvly jubbly, why should the Communists not enjoy power and perhaps get drunk with power. Very very few politicians are not there for the power and neither Christofias or Kasoulides are an exception. But they obligated to take actions in order to be re-elected and their positions are slightly better than that of Tpap.

copper wrote: After 48 years of Independence the largest party in Cyprus might be in power as from next Sunday. Why should they want to negotiate for a settlement with the Turkish Cypriots and run the risk of dissolving the Republic of Cyprus to become a 'component' state with EQUAL power with the Turkish Cypriots ?

Because they don't think like that. They are not that desperate. Besides Akel is a multicultural party, the basis of enrolment is not enthicity.

copper wrote: In effect the position of the Greek Cypriots will not be any different as regards to a solution of our 50 plus year old problem.

As long as we have the same problem why would we change position?
Is Turkey occupying half of our island? Yes
Is the division racist? Yes
All we are asking is nothing more but a lot less than our fundamental human rights declared by UN.
Can we have freedom to choose the future of our island? No
Therefore all we can change is the attitude towards the problem.

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1644 Location: Canada

Londoner wrote: Lets hope its not another false dawn - peace and solution please, such a small and beutiful place deserves better

Welcome! welcome Londoner, we are all hopeful today.

Kifeas you have once again hit it on the head. I am glad to say it is what I have been saying as well. Let us define Bizonal more clearly, let us stick to the Bicommunal Principal of our Constitution and reform it.

...let us see if Kassoulides is true, and that the Annan Plan is off the table.

...let us see if Christofias has a clear vision with his 10 point plan.

there is much to begin now that more gates are (I hope) opened.

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1644 Location: Canada

Quote: any response from Turkish Cypriot parties, media, and society ?

...good question cyp, I realise strangely quiet.

moonskin · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 513 Location: Freiburg, Germany

cypezokyli wrote: well.
to say i didnot enjoy it, i would be lying. :lol:

it was a pretty straight forward message from gcypriots to tpap. not only he failed to receive the votes from the parties who supported him, he also failed to capitalize the fact that he was the president.

it is important to note though, that the third ( tpaps party) will determine the winner.
its not that important since it is the president who has the power.

any response from Turkish Cypriot parties, media, and society ?

Well, they are sad! They were hoping for Tassos to win so that they could ask for recognition in the aftermath of the Greek Cypriot election. I suspect that Talat is kind of scared right now! I mean, this could possibly be the beginning of a new period, where Talat's desire for a unified Cyprus will actually be tested!

But let's hope that I am a pessimist and he is very happy now!

Currently, the Turkish media (of Turkey) is presenting the results as "shocking"!
(http://www.ntvmsnbc.com.tr/news/436026.asp)

We will see guys, we will see...

opinion4CY · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 5

Bananiot wrote: The people of Cyprus have spoken. Five years of darkness, five years of depressive recession to the ice age are over. You can all breath a breath of fresh air. Papadopoulos is no more. He is going home. For good!

The people of CY have decided indeed. Before breathing...do not forget that occupation is still here and if a suprise for anyone it was also before TPapad.

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1644 Location: Canada

hello opinion4CY, welcome.

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia

One Bastard gone and another waiting to take his place!

So who will win?
The Communist Christofias? That a beauty! That should make a few headlines around the world!
Communist govern Cyprus!
Hey I thought the Communist died with Mao!
OR Here we GO!
The Right Wing USA Backed Lets sell you all out Liberal!
OK!
OK!
What do I really mean?
Well who ever wins the honest Cypriot will be screwed BIG TIME! Specially the Greek Cypriot refugees! BUT one politician will use Vaseline and the other wont!
So let me know which one YOU prefer!
cheers!
Hey where my Robin Hood outfit?

Bananiot · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia

Occupation is still here opinion4CY, thanks to the government we had in 2003-2004 that failed to seize the initiative at a time when little wee Cyprus had Turkey in her pocket.

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia

Bananiot
I don't know what you mean?
You are not talking about the Annan plan?
The Plan to Unite Cyprus?
The plan that would never let me go back to my ancestral land?
The plan that would make me forfeit what 16 generation of my family had?
OR is it something else I missed!
cheers