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repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Canada

Quote: The biggest pay differences were in Cyprus and Estonia, at 25 per cent. This was closely followed by Slovakia with a 24 per cent gap. In Germany the pay difference has grown – by 1 percentage point since 1995 to 22 per cent. In Britain it was 20 per cent, down from 26 per cent 10 years earlier.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19838595/

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=33695&cat_id=1

stavrizatz · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:24 am Post subject:

I don't think the pay gap between genders is an accurate estimate to measure gender discrimination. The principle should be for equal output, equal pay. In some professions the two genders can produce significantly different output eg male dominating: professional sports, labour work or female dominating: secretarial jobs, nurcing, primary education. I am interested to see a study to be made on this.

city · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3337 Location: Larnaca area

Stavri, those surveys usually do make a distinction between the jobs/output when comparing the m/f wages. They do not compare a builder and a secretary for example.
The gap clearly exists.

stavrizatz · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:07 am Post subject:

Yes but the Eurostat study took into consideration only ...
Quote: Eurostat’s gender pay gaps were estimated by the difference between average hourly pay for women and men across the EU before tax.

The average can be affected by a many factors such as more women are taking part time jobs, women take more frequent breaks etc.

To compare it fairly you have to make analysis of equal work, equal pay as I said earlier, and that was not taken into consideration on the above study. Both in Australia and Cyprus I am sure that there is gender discrimination in some work places but it is rare as far as I am concerned.

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Canada

not that long ago, in my lifetime, I saw gangs of women building our roads in Cyprus, while men watched. In the fields women worked, men danced and made music.

I'm not saying that men didn't work, but that equal work then as now is difficult to estimate. Needless to say, there is a gender gap, and it takes many different extremes, all over the globe.

Now, unlike then, the State educates the children, while all adults "work", and compete as individuals. But, the biggest threat to their freedom is the breakdown of the Family Unit, because without these roots, love is not nurtured, this independance can have no direction, except toward a Government which by providing for their interests, provides for itself.