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[depurple]

I have been reading a lot of articles published by the Newspaper Afrika lately and man have they got guts:
What will the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus do with this freedom of speech newspaper:
Lets waits and see:
First Africa publicized that the Bathroom killings where actually done by Turkish Cypriot of the TMT and now they say that most Politicians in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus are corrupt and other allegations:
What will the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus do?
Specially Denktash and his band of fortune seekers?
Let see?
Another Fire bomb?
Another assassination?
Another shut down?
BUT this time the EU will be watching so it wont be easy this time!
Keep up the great work Levent and his hard working journalist and keep the bastards honest!
cheers
PS I wish the Republic of Cyprus had an honest newspaper as well:

[Khan]

depurple wrote:
First Africa publicized that the Bathroom killings where actually done by Turkish Cypriot of the TMT

Right, do you have a link to this article? Or this more of your nonsense?

[moonskin]

There is no such claim in the series of articles that Sener Levent published about the so-called "bathroom killings". I have no idea how DP came to the conclusion that Sener Levent has established that TMT has organized this.

This murder is disgusting.

However, there is an issue here much more important than who has actually committed this murder. Namely, the equally disgusting, primitive and small-minded policy of using the pictures of this massacre in the primary and secondary education systems (which I personally went through) in North Cyprus.

Anyway, five articles (so far) he has published on the matter can be viewed in Turkish via the following links:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5

[depurple]

07] More information from AFRIKA on the bathroom massacre incident.

Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (28.02.07) reports in its first page that there is new information on the issue of the bathroom massacre incident. (TR. Note: The incident took place in 1963, where a Turkish Cypriot family was found dead in the bathroom of its house. The Turkish Cypriot side supports that the family was killed by Greek Cypriot guerrillas).
AFRIKAs columnist Sener Levent reports, inter alia, in his daily Column Point of View that there is the need to clarify this issue. Mr Levent goes on and writes that the paper received two more pieces of information on this issue yesterday: The first one is related to Hasan Kudum who was hurt during the bathroom massacre incident but he did not lose his life. Asked by his friends if those who came to kill them spoke between them Greek or Turkish, Hasan Kudum stated: There were persons who spoke Greek and there were persons who spoke Turkish. The second information is related to a person who was known under the name Bozkurt (Grey wolf) and later it was found out that his real name was Kenan Coskun. Nihat Ilhan, whose wife and three children were killed in the incident, went to Kenan Coskun and asked him: Has the organization? killed my family in order to secure the intervention of Turkey in the island?. The answer given by Kenan Coskun and bothered Nihat Ilhan was the following: Go and take revenge. He did not tell him from where to take revenge, writes Sener Levent.
(CS)
Grey wolf?
Organization?
What does that mean?
cheers

[Xenos 2Fan]

Most Turks I spoke with tell me that they want our troops to get sent back home. Especially when we hear about these pinko, communist, Afrika writers besmirching our good name and intentions on your little island.

I am really curios about this and I will start a poll.

[Mete]

Xenos 2Fan wrote:
Most Turks I spoke with tell me that they want our troops to get sent back home. Especially when we hear about these pinko, communist, Afrika writers besmirching our good name and intentions on your little island.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions, Tufan. Sener Levent did not say that the bathroom massacre was committed by Turkish Cypriots/Turkish army. They're simply revisiting an incident (and the rumors around it) that has been such a taboo to talk about until recently.

[depurple]

Mete the funny thing is that I have been told that many of the 1619 missing where killed by Greek Cypriot:
And the Greek Cypriot blame the Turks so anything is possible in love and in WAR!
cheers
PS I just hope all these murdering bastards get there just rewards!
The same as Saddam for gassing HIS own people!
HE didn't gas his own people!
He gassed the Kurds with the green light from Turkey!
cheers again!

[Khan]

By the way that little summary of the Afrika article is provided by the Hellenic Resource Network...

[Bananiot]

Claiming that the bathroom killings were done by Turks for the Greeks to shoulder the blame is like claiming that the Armenians were responsible for the massacres of the Armenians in 1915 in order for the Turks to shoulder the blame.

[pg]

moonskin wrote:
Anyway, five articles (so far) he has published on the matter can be viewed in Turkish via the following links:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5

Can we an English summary by a reliable forum member...?

(Although English translations of Levent often shows a way of writing that is difficult to summarize...)

[depurple]

Bananiot
I think you may have IT wrong mate: The Turkish Cypriot would of Killed there own ONLY so there would be this backlash of hate against each other and divide the island so that SOME (And you know them) can make millions:
Are you trying to tell me that some in Cyprus Greek Cypriot & Turkish Cypriot haven't made Million$ from the division of Cyprus:
For a start Britain has!

So it wasn't the Turkish Cypriot doing the dirty work for the Greeks it was the Turkish Cypriot doing the dirty work for Turkey and other Turkish Cypriot!

In the case of the 1619 missing: It was the Greek Cypriot who did the dirty work for the mainland Greeks against the Communists and blame the Turks:
So again it was the Greek Cypriot doing the dirty work for the Greeks:

How many times have you heard "We must make sacrifices"?
Look at the Americans For 100s of years they blamed the Indian for scalping the white-man WHEN if fact it was the white-men scalping the poor Indians!
There are NO rules in War!
I still believe that Britain sunk more ships in Pearl harbor than the Japs!
cheers

[Kifeas]

Bananiot wrote: Claiming that the bathroom killings were done by Turks for the Greeks to shoulder the blame is like claiming that the Armenians were responsible for the massacres of the Armenians in 1915 in order for the Turks to shoulder the blame.

What a joke you are indeed!

Here we are talking about a particular incident, and not about the entire issue of intercommunal violence in 1963/64 and the fact that innocent civilians were murdered. We are talking about a very specific incident in which there are conflicting reports and claims, even from the part of some Greek Cypriots, yet you dig out like a cucumber to make the above comments, as if you have been there your self -in person, and you have first hand knowledge of the fact that it was the Greek Cypriots that did it, beyond the slightest doubt, (as if you have seen the actual murder, the faces of the murderers and you also happen to know who they were, )even though there are even Turkish Cypriots who have their doubts. What a joke you have become indeed, with your populist attitute!

Why don’t you Turkish Cypriots make this individual your president?

[Get Real!]

Kifeas...
Quote: Why don’t you Turkish Cypriots make this individual your president?

What makes you think they would trust him? Apologists are always frowned upon by all sides because they give rise to suspicion. It's one thing to be an impartial mediator/peacemaker and quite another when you're hell-bent against your own people.

[moonskin]

pg wrote:
Can we an English summary by a reliable forum member...?

(Although English translations of Levent often shows a way of writing that is difficult to summarize...)

Doesn't his stuff get published simultaneously in the Politis newspaper?

[Khan]

Kifeas wrote: even though there are even Turkish Cypriots who have their doubts.

Like who?