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[pg]

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/28/europe/EU-GEN-EU-Cyprus.php

Quote: BRUSSELS, Belgium: Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat is optimistic the European Union will move to end the international isolation of his community by June and open up ports for direct trade with the EU, he said Wednesday

Actually, no special reference to that article - I could have found the same one from any "leader" - but is it not familiar that a great improvement to our problem is always 3 to 6 months away - so that we do not have to deal with it today...?

[Bananiot]

Papadopoulos has failed miserably but still his intransigence knows no boundaries. Yet, he refuses to make moves for the reconvening of some sort of talks and argues that any new effort needs to be well prepared.

His policies are leading to partition but no one is bothered about this prospect because by now, the majority of Greek Cypriots fully support partition while maintaing the rhetoric for a just solution which will not drop from the sky, of course.

While the opposition warn the people that partition is imminent, Papadopoulos will be laughing all the way to the polling station because he knows pretty well that his partition policies are welll supported by the majority of the people.

[pg]

I suspect we do not need to be too dramatic. What will really happen is nothing - which is bad enough.

[Get Real!]

Bananiot...
Quote: While the opposition warn the people that partition is imminent, Papadopoulos will be laughing all the way to the polling station because he knows pretty well that his partition policies are welll supported by the majority of the people.

If according to your theories the majority want partition and they are about to get that what exactly are you complaining about?

[Birkibrisli]

Get Real! wrote: Bananiot...
Quote: While the opposition warn the people that partition is imminent, Papadopoulos will be laughing all the way to the polling station because he knows pretty well that his partition policies are welll supported by the majority of the people.

If according to your theories the majority want partition and they are about to get that what exactly are you complaining about?

What the majority wants is not always what is just or right or even desirable...In this case Partition would definitely not be good for Cyprus.Maybe that is what Bananiot is objecting to. :wink:

[pg]

Don't worry, I think there is a breakthrough ahead.

Don't rock the boat now.

[Birkibrisli]

pg wrote: Don't worry, I think there is a breakthrough ahead.

Don't rock the boat now.

Can you tell us more,pg.Where do you think the breakthrough will come from? Thanks

[-mikkie2-]

I personaly don't share Talats optimism with direct trade.

I find it interesting that Rhen has stated that he wants the Turkish Cypriots to engage with the July 8th process.

It is also interesting that diplomats know that the Turks are holding up the process. Michael Moller knows what is going on and he is keeping interested parties informed. And I take Rhens statements regarding this as a shot across the bows of the Turkish Cypriot's.

I feel that Cyprus needs to make a gesture and give permission to allow the Turkish Cypriot's to trade via Famagusta port under the supervision of the EU.
This would not only show that the RoCy has control of what ports can be opened, it will also undermine the Turkish Cypriot policy of minimising trade via the Green Line.

It will essentially require the Turkish Cypriot's to make a gesture of their own and will at last put genuine pressure on the Turkish side to move things on.

In any event, I don't expect Germany to make a breakthrough, simply because the Comission has made a fatal error in treating the occupied areas as a 3rd country. The Comission would be in great danger of loosing ccredibility if it was challenged by the courts and lost, something which is very likely.

[pg]

Birkibrisli wrote: pg wrote: Don't worry, I think there is a breakthrough ahead.

Don't rock the boat now.

Can you tell us more,pg.Where do you think the breakthrough will come from? Thanks

I cannot tell you more now. This can not discussed in public. However, we should make no difficult compromises now since there is a bright future ahead - if you all wait, and wait, and wait...

[Mete]

pg wrote:
cannot tell you more now. This can not discussed in public. However, we should make no difficult compromises now since there is a bright future ahead - if you all wait, and wait, and wait...

What are you? Cyprus problem prophet?

[Birkibrisli]

pg wrote: Birkibrisli wrote: pg wrote: Don't worry, I think there is a breakthrough ahead.

Don't rock the boat now.

Can you tell us more,pg.Where do you think the breakthrough will come from? Thanks

I cannot tell you more now. This can not discussed in public. However, we should make no difficult compromises now since there is a bright future ahead - if you all wait, and wait, and wait...

:lol: :lol:

And I thought you knew something I didn't for a minute... :oops:

[pg]

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=31646&archive=1

Quote: Late last month, the Turkish Cypriot side said it was putting discussions on hold because of what it called Greek Cypriot manipulation. It believed the Greek Cypriot side had sought to convince the international community talks were going well to head off the implementation of a possible direct trade agreement between the north and the bloc by the EU.

[Birkibrisli]

pg wrote: http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=31646&archive=1

Quote: Late last month, the Turkish Cypriot side said it was putting discussions on hold because of what it called Greek Cypriot manipulation. It believed the Greek Cypriot side had sought to convince the international community talks were going well to head off the implementation of a possible direct trade agreement between the north and the bloc by the EU.

So they can't even agree on how the negotiations to start full negotiations for a possible solution is going well or not...How pathetic... :evil:

[Kifeas]

Soon the “who is who” and the truth will be fully exposed and everyone will see which one is the constructive side and which is indeed the opportunistic one. I am personally not worried of the outcome of this exposure, and sorry for Bananiot (and some others) for going to be disappointed. Just be patient a bit more.

[pg]

It is all about getting the hopes up with regards to a preferred solution instead of doing the hard compromise.

Both sides to it, but not always at the same time...