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Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

i was researching the education system in the south, after having 'nonsensical' arguments with Greek Cypriots of my age (mainly some raised in cyprus), and some of the things they said shocked me. The sheer ignorance. Anyway, i was looking to see if there was any new thought on educating the children of cyprus, to be more rounded, tolerant individuals.

I found a few documents: which show a dialogue or at least willingness to teach more 'european' values, and multiperspectivity of history(both sides of the story).

HTML version - quicker to download

PDF document

Ive been thinking about at, and im sure ive said it before, but tehquicker multiperspectivity hits cyprus, the better.

also: http://www.hisdialresearch.org/ (thanks filio)

cypezokyli · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

interesting website... thanks dhav...and filio..

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

Just forgot to mention, that the article i have posted was done in 2004, around the time of the referendum, but it still seems the association are stil 'working'

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

It's a good document and needs to be used not left as a good idea...

A few weeks back there was a lot of nasty comments left on the igreek Arsenal flag ban petition. From "Best Turk is Dead Turk" to "Cyprus is Greek", not just a few but tons of these comments! Makes you realise the scale of the problem.

The media also have a big role to play. If you keep demonising the North, calling it "occupied", the rest "Free", positioning Turks as invadors/barbarians/murderers/rapists (so much so that some Greek Cypriots can't even separate between Turkish Cypriots and Turks), then any wonder we going nowhere on unification front? So much hate!

South side needs to really work on this, but given virtually all political hierarchy, Greek Cypriot media etc support this hardcore line, how will it ever come about???

cypezokyli · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

RudeGal wrote: It's a good document and needs to be used not left as a good idea...

A few weeks back there was a lot of nasty comments left on the igreek Arsenal flag ban petition. From "Best Turk is Dead Turk" to "Cyprus is Greek", not just a few but tons of these comments! Makes you realise the scale of the problem.

The media also have a big role to play. If you keep demonising the North, calling it "occupied", the rest "Free", positioning Turks as invadors/barbarians/murderers/rapists (so much so that some Greek Cypriots can't even separate between Turkish Cypriots and Turks), then any wonder we going nowhere on unification front? So much hate!

South side needs to really work on this, but given virtually all political hierarchy, Greek Cypriot media etc support this hardcore line, how will it ever come about???

the fact that you in discussion about education , you see a problem only in the Greek Cypriot side, shows a lot..... :roll:

if education is ever to change, thats the first thing that should deal with. the attitude "is not my fault its all the others fault". to change it not for Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots but for all those who have it.

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1734 Location: Canada

Thanks Dhav.

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

cypezokyli wrote: the fact that you in discussion about education , you see a problem only in the Greek Cypriot side, shows a lot..... :roll:

if education is ever to change, thats the first thing that should deal with. the attitude "is not my fault its all the others fault". to change it not for Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots but for all those who have it. C, as you know there has been a big shift in education and attitudes in North side, so I think it is right the focus is on Greek Cypriots right now. Don't take it personally me china, if you were all as bad as the Arsenal petition lot, I would give up on this forum and be out campaigning for Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus recognition. As it is, this forum challenges my prejudices, and the collective wisdom informs my thoughts/ideas. Yes, more Turkish Cypriots can do with that too, but dealing with the level of racism exhibited about the Other is very much a Greek Cypriot problem and it is a significant one! (or post evidence to show me this is otherwise...).

So let's stop the crappy traditional Cypriot thing of 'we're all as bad as each other'. On some things we (Turkish Cypriots) are not, though there will be other areas where we fall down on far worse. So take this on the chin C, Greek Cypriots got to get this sorted!