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[100%cypriot]

What has happend to kifeas ?
His views are his views and should be respected as an individual, We should be trying to become closer and closer , not alienate ourselves from each other, we are letting our pride take over common sense , and this is probably the main crux of the matter regarding the Cyprus Problem,

I for one have been on the end of Kifeas's Ranting's but i have learned so much from him and others here on this Forum, So let us all have a new meaning to the word of listening, it should be our new year's resolution and perhaps if we stop acting like the politicians who are currently running Cyprus on both sides of the divide then we may start to educate ourselves a little more on this subject.

Happy new year to everyone

[zan]

You can find all that you need to know on the Internet without the lies, abuse and threats.

[100%cypriot]

zan wrote: You can find all that you need to know on the Internet without the lies, abuse and threats.

Yep you got it right , but stopping someone from expressing his view is wrong as well as his ranting's, he obviously has his reasons for being so aggresive in his comments to other forum members and i do not agree with much of what he says , but he or she will eventually realise the mistakes being made by the way he or she expresses those points , i don't mind being lied to or abused or threatend by anyone, as i am bigger than all those negatives and will allways tollerate other peoples mistakes.

[erolz]

Just to be clear here Kifeas is not banned from the forum.

He has chosen to not post here for reasons of his own.

[100%cypriot]

erolz wrote: Just to be clear here Kifeas is not banned from the forum.

He has chosen to not post here for reasons of his own.

Erol i didn't say he was banned,

[cypezokyli]

kifeas was one of the very few people i "knew" who really knew why he voted no. he was also in a position to make proposals for the future.

unfortunately he couldnot control himself when it came to swearing .... unfortunately some people took advantage of that.

concequently , the majority of Greek Cypriots participating are only representing the minority of the Greek Cypriot opinion.

its a pity

[zan]

cypezokyli wrote: kifeas was one of the very few people i "knew" who really knew why he voted no. he was also in a position to make proposals for the future.

unfortunately he couldnot control himself when it came to swearing .... unfortunately some people took advantage of that.

concequently , the majority of Greek Cypriots participating are only representing the minority of the Greek Cypriot opinion.

its a pity


Took advantage how? By abusing him back? I don't always believe that turning the other cheek when he clearly had an agenda of spreading propaganda. That and the fact he could not control himself left him open to attack and if you see me as the aggressor for taking that opportunity to destroy him then you are wrong. I want him to put his point across but he chose to write it in blood. He threatens to wipe us off the island and says he is going to the gym to prepare for it and you see others as the guilty ones. He attacked anyone with opposing views and he got attacked back. I chose to attack his propaganda and the man and the propaganda could not be separated. Just being Turkish was enough rhetoric for him to start his abuse and to give it as a reason for your response.

I also believe that you are wrong on why he voted no to the Annan plan. His reasons were given in retrospect and I do not believe that, at the time, he had a full understanding of the plan. He said many times that the Greek Cypriots had not had time to fully understand the plan so was he the only one that did. I am afraid that his twisting and turning was his downfall and I will take some credit in that but he did most of the work. I don’t wish him banned but I do resent his martyrdom on this forum.

[Bananiot]

Martyrdom? He will be back, no doubt. Do not rush to cancel him out.

[zan]

Bananiot wrote: Martyrdom? He will be back, no doubt. Do not rush to cancel him out.

Just a figure of speech Bananiot, I resent others trying to martyr him

I hope he does come back, as a changed man because I don’t trust what he is doing while he is away. Truth.

[Bananiot]

No one tried to make a martyr out of him. Most people agreed that a civilised Kifeas could have been an asset to the forum, however his childish demand that anyone that does not agree with him is a ... Turk, has gone a long way towards dicrediting him.

[PAul]

He is still spewing his rhetoric on other boards, nothing ever changes:


Cyprus Forum: Kifeas Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:00 pm

[repulsewarrior]

Zan, kifeas is the same coin, just another side, and his help you need more than you're willing to admit, that is... if you truly believe that a solution is needed, because we all must stand together to get it.

Imagine...if the enmity was set aside, what would be the result of such collaboration.

[Dhavlos]

cypezokyli wrote: kifeas was one of the very few people i "knew" who really knew why he voted no. he was also in a position to make proposals for the future.

unfortunately he couldnot control himself when it came to swearing .... unfortunately some people took advantage of that.

concequently , the majority of Greek Cypriots participating are only representing the minority of the Greek Cypriot opinion.
its a pity

I completely agree, but not the 'knowing him' part lol

[zan]

repulsewarrior wrote: Zan, kifeas is the same coin, just another side, and his help you need more than you're willing to admit, that is... if you truly believe that a solution is needed, because we all must stand together to get it.

Imagine...if the enmity was set aside, what would be the result of such collaboration.

In what way?

I am a realist in the way that you are a dreamer. I don't mean that in a bad way because I have the same dream as you and the same hope in humanity and will never attack your ideals because they have to be put into the same hat. The difference is that I cannot ever see a way in which our dream will be achieved. In fact through experience I know they never will. What I want is for that same humanity to realise, on both sided, that separation is the way forward for the foreseeable future and from there we can work towards unification. We cannot jump the gun and banging our heads on the wall of unification is wasting time. These are my thoughts and should be taken as seriously as yours. The thing that is making the problem last is greed and intolerance and there is plenty of that to burst your bubble and mine. I see people asking for unification as spoilt children (not literally) stamping their feet and not wanting what is best for them because of lack of self-control. It is time to give these children either a smack or to ignore them in the hope that they will see reason and we can move on. But then if we were reasonable your way would work. :cry:

[repulsewarrior]

I am called an idealist or a dreamer because I see this problem as an opportunity to wipe away what is and to create something which is completely different.

In a way, I do not believe that the unification is useful, if it is to imply that things return to what they were. Similarly I do not believe that the partition is useful because it represents the same form of intolerance, but divided in two.

The objective is freedom of association, expression and movement, as well as equality, and the right as individuals to choose our identity and to sustain it through our efforts.

Three governments in one capital suits Cyprus very well.

Bizonal to have a real and useful meaning does not mean two territories divided to be only two parts. Bi-communal, similarly does not mean two communities which are mutually exclusive.

And hopefully, with the patience that the world affords us, we will mature to a point where the dream, a people called Cypriot, can sustain itself.