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Dhavlos
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: Papdopoulos not to seek reelection? |
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Quote: Papadopoulos not concerned about seeking re-election
PRESIDENT Tassos Papadopoulos has said that he is not at present concerned with the prospect of seeking re-election in next year’s presidential elections, CNA reported yesterday.
Asked during a special function at the presidential palace about a possible bid for re-election, the President referred journalists to earlier statements he had made to left-wing daily Haravghi on the matter, adding that at this stage he does not allow himself to deal with such a prospect.
He told the daily that before he considers the matter, he would consult with the parties that support his government, noting that so far no word has been mentioned about the subject.
“I have said what I wanted to say, and it is very clear,” he told journalists yesterday.
Asked when he will start thinking about it, he said he had nothing to add on the matter, noting that the scenarios for next year’s presidential elections have started from press reports.
The issue was raised in a front-page report in another daily yesterday which suggested that former foreign minister Ioannis Kasoulides is seriously thinking of running for the presidency, in February's elections next year.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=29878&cat_id=1
interesting...or does it not really mean anything? |
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RudeGal
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Good news if true! But this is politics man, and PapaD will spin it out as long as he can. Certainly I think Kasoulides is a strong candidate (from external eyes anyway, not sure the internal, Greek Cypriot perception of him) and would be a much better option. Could make the South Cyprus Pres elections very interesting... |
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cypezokyli
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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no chance!
he will run again! |
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turkkan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| It dosent really make a big difference if he leaves, the majority of the greek cypriots are very happy with him and will seek someone like him to replace him , it will probably be lilikas who is a mini-version of him, although probably not as smart. Wont change anything. |
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Bananiot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Of course he will stand for reelection. He will win the elections by a bigger margin than before, unless a major miracle happens. This is because basically Greek Cypriots do not want a solution based on BBF and in Papadopoulos they see an able man that can resist all sort of pressures and above all he is a known quantity.
P.S. Christofias went to the north last night on the occasion of the celebrations of 36 years of CTP. Our media started reporting this early in the morning, as instructed by Christofias. They reported that he would have talks with Talat and Ferdi on the essence of the Cyprus issue and the opening of Ledra Street. There were more than 1000 quests for the occasion and Christofias simply met for a minute with Talat who had to entertain many quests. Yet, our media claimed today that he held substantive talks with Talat and that they agreed that 2007 was no good a year for solution and that 2008 was the year! Sener Levent in Africa, wrote today that Talat simply shook the hand of Christofias.
The above is a clear indication that Christofias and Papadopoulos are only interested in appeasing public opinion. This time, they wanted to reassure us romantic seekers of solution that the process is still on and that if we voted for them in 2008 we could reap the benefits of a possible solution.
Ferdi Soyer was heard making a rather undiplomatic remark regarding Christofias: "He is such a showman", he was heard whispering in the ear of another guest. |
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pg
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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RudeGal wrote: Good news if true! But this is politics man, and PapaD will spin it out as long as he can. Certainly I think Kasoulides is a strong candidate (from external eyes anyway, not sure the internal, Greek Cypriot perception of him) and would be a much better option. Could make the South Cyprus Pres elections very interesting...
He is well respected, but DISY's only chance is to nominate Christofias as their candidate... |
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Bananiot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Come on pg, stop dreaming. Christofias does not want to be the President. He prefers things exactly as they are now. He has the majority in the cabinet, he can appoint anyone of his party subortinates to the governemnt machine and yet he does not shoulder responsibilites for any failures. "We are not the government", he said recently, "we participate in the government". He is very happy and if it comes to the worst he can always blame Papadopoulos. |
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Chapfallen
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve heart a lot of scenarios and the most possible (even if it seems impossible) is the one that speaking about Marcos Kiprianou where DISI, Evrokoloi (they are out of the government because of Akel) DIKO supporters of Spiros Kiprianou and maybe even official support from DIKO and EDEK(they have problems with Akel).
In this way TPap maybe will forced to not run for a second election or run and divide DIKO and loose or win with some points.
I hope what eventually the magic formula will be found and get rid of this piece of shit.
Quote: It dosent really make a big difference if he leaves, the majority of the greek cypriots are very happy with him and will seek someone like him to replace him , it will probably be lilikas who is a mini-version of him, although probably not as smart. Wont change anything.
TPap is not smart. He is just a brainless lucky person like Lillikas.
His only difference with Lillikas (I guess) is what TPap he is also a criminal.
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DISI will not support Christofias because the DISI supporters will not vote him.
DISI and AKEL can’t be sure for electing a non independent candidate.
AKEL will not risk breaking the saint trinity because if everything goes according to the plan they will be for another one time on our back and they will cashing in from another one pathetic Eurotaliban government.
And by this way is guaranteed that Evrokoloi Edek Diko will run with there own candidate.
AKEL can’t risk by putting his own candidate because if DISI will not support them in the end they will have guaranteed loose (and because Akel is loosing power) but also can’t risk by admitting what they have shit on their pants and what they was just puppets of TPap, that’s why in my opinion AKEL is the only guaranteed power that will support TPap to avoid further humiliation and also to avoid an internal conflict between the TPap dick suckers (Lillikas, Katsourides) and the increasing anti-imperialist anti-solution madness can lead them to loose AKEL - NO voters also.
AKEL is proved what they are all dick suckers, they was sucking Makarios, Kiprianou etc and they used to this and they can only make stable moves with minimum risk to confirm their Tran sexuality for another one time.
So in the end the only possible scenario is an independent candidate that will be able to take votes from all the parties.
In any way the party with the bigger problem is AKEL and their only hope to not loose more power is to reelect TPap and keep strong the saint trinity.
This is the transexuall way they were acting in their whole existence why they will change now? |
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Chapfallen
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the scenarios I’ve heart:
1 Tpap – Christofias – Kasoulides
It’s possible and it’s the only way for cooperation AKEL, DISI where they will be only 2 candidates to the second round. DISI will not have problem on that since they have nothing to loose and they have strong chances to go to the second round and even as the first power but AKEL will not risk such a scenario for many reasons. If they do it will be the best action in their whole history.
2 Marcos Kiprianou – TPap with the official support of the saint trinity or with out EDEK support where they will most probably loose.
3 Marcos Kiprianou – Christofias where he will have the loose in his pocket and this can happen if DIKO will support M.K and TPap will forced out of the elections.
4 TPap and the saint trinity (AKEL-DIKO-EDEK) – Kasoulides or any other indepented candidate of DISI. This is unfortunately the most possible scenario where TPap will be elect again and only by a miracle this will be change in such a scenario.
The scenario TPap – Christofias does not exist in my opinion.
Of course other miracles could happen until the elections, for example TPap could die since he is an old fart and a heart attack could come from the universe to save us.
I will wait for a miracle to happen because there is nothing else to do or to hope for. |
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pg
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Bananiot wrote: Come on pg, stop dreaming. Christofias does not want to be the President. He prefers things exactly as they are now. He has the majority in the cabinet, he can appoint anyone of his party subortinates to the governemnt machine and yet he does not shoulder responsibilites for any failures. "We are not the government", he said recently, "we participate in the government". He is very happy and if it comes to the worst he can always blame Papadopoulos.
I agree that Christofias, as well as everyone else in the 'holy trinity', will prefer not to rock the boat but continue with the present formula..., in which case we will see Christofia push for the Papadopoulos-Kasoulides case. What I mean that if the train seams to go there, it would be better for DISY to promote Christofias - and see how he will try to get out of that... |
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RudeGal
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| Chapfallen you certainly have a way with words! brings a broad :D to my face the way you choose to articulate the inside dynamics of Greek Cypriot politics! |
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Xenos 2Fan
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RudeGal wrote: Chapfallen you certainly have a way with words! brings a broad :D to my face the way you choose to articulate the inside dynamics of Greek Cypriot politics!
RG
He is one of the most enlightened people. (even though he trashed me in one of his posts) I am not saying this because he trashes Republic of Cyprus government. I say it because he is right. He is one of the few people that has not succumbed to Greek Cypriot nationalism. peace out! |
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Alexios
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Casoulides is a good candidate but unfortunately he will have no chance against Cerano who will still enjoy Christofias support.The maths simply dont add up...
Approximately:
AKEL-30%
DISY-30%
DIKO-18%
EDEK-5%
EUROKO-5%
OTHERS-12%
Cerano gets elected almost with the support of AKEL and DIKO alone....
PS: I bet my life, that shortly before the elections, social security benefits will increase, the oil business senaria on the southern shore will dominate the news, civil servants on yearly contracts will be made permanent staff,the Ledra street and Limnitis checkpoints will open,the new Archbishop will promise he will personally compensate all refugees,the Minister of transport will give the go ahead for the construction of the Paphos-Polis motorway,AKEL will bribe all the referees so that Omonia win the championship,Cerano will visit paradise and secure from His brother that rain will be plentiful, the Government will announce plans for a channel to bring sea water from Agia Napa to Nicosia,all taxes on new cars will be abolished and Zacharias Koullias will propose the hanging of Simitis, Papandreou, Papapetrou, Anastasiades etc for supporting the Annan Plan...... |
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repulsewarrior
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| There were indications of TPaps resolve months ago...although his ploy may be a need for the affirmation of his allies with a public display of their desire to call upon him to continue his leadership. |
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