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RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

pg wrote: In short, as long as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus behaves does not respect all Cypriot civilians, it will most likely not be treated as other recognized not recognized states. Two wrongs don't make a right! Each needs to show respect to universal values and international laws. If one side not putting it's house in order, cannot be justified for other side to do other stinky things!

pg · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1485 Location: Cyprus

RudeGal wrote: pg wrote: In short, as long as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus behaves does not respect all Cypriot civilians, it will most likely not be treated as other recognized not recognized states. Two wrongs don't make a right! Each needs to show respect to universal values and international laws. If one side not putting it's house in order, cannot be justified for other side to do other stinky things!

You mean that whatever the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Turkey does, it should suffer no consequences?

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

I find the Greek Cypriot arguements above disingenius. So much hypocrisy and wilful denial of truth!

Fact: Turkish Cypriots endured embargoes since Dec 1963. It is evidenced in UN reports and international media coverage. It changed from ethnic embargoes to territorial post events of 1974. It is false for people to present otherwise

Fact: going through Limassol does add cost to trade for Turkish Cypriots, when Magusa is nearer and they can use their own vehicles (did you know that Turkish Cypriot commercial vehicles like taxis, buses, and lorries cannot cross into South using existing permits, when North permits same for Greek Cypriot vehicles?). It is as big economic disincentive to Turkish Cypriot businesses, as important as the political arguements for not using Limassol (surely Greek Cypriots must realise if Turkish Cypriots were going to capitulate and accept minority status, would have happened by now. It did not & will not! So let's move on!). Check out info from Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce on Green Line initiative results...

Also, if Greek Cypriots have right to reject Annan Plan, why can't Turkish Cypriots have right to determine own future? Why does one have to be isolated and the other accept (demand!) respect for their decision? Like I said above, smacks of pure hypocrisy!

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

pg wrote: You mean that whatever the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Turkey does, it should suffer no consequences? Did I say that pg? No!

Everyone reaps what they sow. If Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus or Turkey or anyone breaks the rules, there are always consequences. For some, it takes longer to catch up, but it always does!

pg · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1485 Location: Cyprus

RudeGal wrote:
Also, if Greek Cypriots have right to reject Annan Plan, why can't Turkish Cypriots have right to determine own future? Why does one have to be isolated and the other accept (demand!) respect for their decision? Like I said above, smacks of pure hypocrisy!

Because voting in a referendum is exercising a democratic right, while the establishment of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was based on breaking the Geneva Convention...