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brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

What do you think Turkey should do, recognise the Republic of Cyprus wothout a solution in place or keep to its principles and say 'no' and first wait for the solution.

Please leave comments if you wish why you voted that way.

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

i dont think turkey should accept the Republic of Cyprus, as that would almost certainly put a stop to a solution, and have an acceptacne of the status quo. It would really alienate the Turkish Cypriots because it would look like Turkye doesnt care. On the other hand, they should recognise the Republic of Cyprus, becuase that is the country which the rest of the world recognises.

If they dont recognise the Republic of Cyprus, they shouldnt join, plus, technically, they are occupying Eu/Cypriot land....in the eyes of the world.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

So how about you vote then.

erolz · Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne

Dhavlos wrote: i dont think turkey should accept the Republic of Cyprus, as that would almost certainly put a stop to a solution, and have an acceptacne of the status quo. It would really alienate the Turkish Cypriots because it would look like Turkye doesnt care. On the other hand, they should recognise the Republic of Cyprus, becuase that is the country which the rest of the world recognises.

If they dont recognise the Republic of Cyprus, they shouldnt join, plus, technically, they are occupying Eu/Cypriot land....in the eyes of the world.

Dhavlos

Turkey recognises the Republic of Cyprus as the legitimate government of Greek Cypriots. It just does not recognise it as the legitimate government of Turkish Cypriots or all Cypriots. That to me seems a pretty reasonable approach, for the Republic of Cyprus as it exists today is a government of Greek Cypriot and not all cypriots and has been so since the absense of Turkish Cypriot members in 1964.

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

oh ok, that clears stuf up then a bit, thanks E

cannedmoose · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:

There isn't a 'No' option for non-Cypriots Bro' :shock:

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

cannedmoose wrote: There isn't a 'No' option for non-Cypriots Bro' :shock:

Sorry mate but it won't let me edit the poll, Erol help me please

cannedmoose · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject:

I'm voting yes anyway, but it would be good to have the option.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

The option is there now moosey. :wink:

-mikkie2- · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 603

There seems to be a common misconception about the 'Republic of Cyprus' that it is a Greek Cypriot republic. I challenge ANYONE to state what changes were made to the constitution of the RoCy.

To my mind there is a clear path - Turkey recognise the RoCy and for the Turkish Cypriot's to take their rightful place within it. This is the quickest and most sensible path to a solution.

cannedmoose · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:

My view is that Turkey should recognise the Republic of Cyprus as the legitimate state of the whole island of Cyprus, although not recognising the Republic of Cyprus government as the legitimate government. This is what Switzerland does in a number of cases with states.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

So have you voted mikkie.

-mikkie2- · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 603

I have not voted because I say Turkey should recognise the RoCy, with the Turkish Cypriot's taking their rightful place within it. That option is clearly not there!

erolz · Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne

-mikkie2- wrote: There seems to be a common misconception about the 'Republic of Cyprus' that it is a Greek Cypriot republic. I challenge ANYONE to state what changes were made to the constitution of the RoCy.

When the Turkish Cypriot MP's sought to return to the Republic of Cyprus government in 1965 they were told directly they could not do so unless they agreed , without negotiation or dispute, ALL of Makarios' 13 ammnedments to the consitituion.

I challenge you to explain how the Republic of Cyprus can be the legitimat goverment of all Cypriots in any moral sense without the participation of Turkish Cypriots within it? Even if you say that Turkish Cypriots simplt chose to withdraw to futher the aim od taksim (which is not the case imo), even then morally the Republic of Cyprus ceases to be the legitimate goveernmant of all Cypriots, if you believe that governments should govern with the consent of those people they govern.

-mikkie2- wrote:
To my mind there is a clear path - Turkey recognise the RoCy and for the Turkish Cypriot's to take their rightful place within it. This is the quickest and most sensible path to a solution.

Firstly would the Republic of Cyprus as it exits today allow such a return without a wider comprehensive setlement and without unconditional acceptance of legisaltion passed post 64? Personally I doubt this.
So let's imagine that this is the route taken. What then ahppens re 'property'. Are all the laws passed by the all Greek Cypriot run Republic of Cyprus to become the 'law' on property for all Cypriots even though these laws were passed by Greek Cypriot only? Are all people given citizenship by the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to be instantly stripped of these and 'sent home'? There is no 'easy' path to a solution in Cyprus as I see it and pretending there is does not help us find a solution imo.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

That is not a real option at the moment but what i have asked above is, with France :jerk: and other EU states clearly calling for this, these are the only options at the moment.