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Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

heres a link to the website for in fo....v short article, kind of summarises what most poeple already knew

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4203544.stm

Foreign ministers of the 25 EU countries will try to remove last-minute obstacles to membership talks with Turkey. At a two-day meeting near Newport, Wales, they are expected to ask Ankara to do more to normalise relations with Cyprus.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

I am convinced that the magority of these EU heads of states are complete...... :jerk: and they don't know there arse from their heads, you make a deal then you go back on it (namely France) then you make promises and one year on you still have not done anything, the EU at the moment seems like the blind leading the blind headed by some serious clowns who couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery. :drink:

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

i see your post wasnt influenced by the smilies! hehe

-mikkie2- · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 603

Brother,

Quite frankly, Turkey is the one that is forcing the issue. Her non recognition of the RoCy and her refusal to allow ships to enter Turkish ports goes against her obligations towards the EU. Remember, this is not a union of equals. It is Turkey wanting to join the EU, not the other way around.

Nobody is saying that talks won't begin on 3rd of October. What will happen though is that they won't progress!

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

Well mikkie i support Turkey on not recognising the Republic of Cyprus as it does NOT represent the whole of cyprus or cypriots as it is at the moment, if not progressing is what will happen to Turkey, then so be it, when tassos decides to sit down and negotiate then we will progress but the Turkish Cypriot will never accept the Republic of Cyprus as it is today as the sole goverment of cyprus.

-mikkie2- · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 603

Quote: Well mikkie i support Turkey on not recognising the Republic of Cyprus as it does NOT represent the whole of cyprus or cypriots as it is at the moment, if not progressing is what will happen to Turkey, then so be it, when tassos decides to sit down and negotiate then we will progress but the Turkish Cypriot will never accept the Republic of Cyprus as it is today as the sole goverment of cyprus.

Well, that's fine then brother. Perhaps then it would be in the best interests of the Turkish Cypriots to demand their place in the RoCy and look after their own interests first ahead of those of Turkey. It seems to me that is where things will eventually lead to. The Turkish Cypriots will be faced with stark choices further down the line - Eu membership and all the benefits it brings or be permanently linked to Turkey with all the 'benefits' that will entail.

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

Quote: Well, that's fine then brother. Perhaps then it would be in the best interests of the Turkish Cypriots to demand their place in the RoCy and look after their own interests first ahead of those of Turkey. It seems to me that is where things will eventually lead to. The Turkish Cypriots will be faced with stark choices further down the line - Eu membership and all the benefits it brings or be permanently linked to Turkey with all the 'benefits' that will entail.

For the Turkish Cypriot to demand anything we first need tassos aka Mr.oxi to sit down and negotiate with Talat, who has constantly tried to approach Mr.oxi with no success, he even made an issue out of an unofficial coffee to melt barriers.

cannedmoose · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:

This post should be in the Cyprus-EU thread me thinks....

erolz · Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne

A BBC news item about reaction in Turkish press re Turkish EU accession talks and Cyprus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4215476.stm

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

more has happen....but in my opinion, they are just delaying the problem for another few years....france are probably just waiting for the uk presidency to end, and theirs to start

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4238220.stm

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

Austria are the next EU presidents at the start of 2006, i forsee some troubled times ahead for Turkey as the Austrians are known racists when it comes to turks hence their always predictable comments of stopping the turks at the gates of vienna.

detailer · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 473 Location: UK

cannedmoose wrote: This post should be in the Cyprus-EU thread me thinks....

No it should be in "Turkey and Greece" section. :roll:

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

brother wrote: Austria are the next EU presidents at the start of 2006, i forsee some troubled times ahead for Turkey as the Austrians are known racists when it comes to turks hence their always predictable comments of stopping the turks at the gates of vienna.

Need we mention Hitler....although im sure they are not that bad now

cannedmoose · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

Dhavlos wrote: brother wrote: Austria are the next EU presidents at the start of 2006, i forsee some troubled times ahead for Turkey as the Austrians are known racists when it comes to turks hence their always predictable comments of stopping the turks at the gates of vienna.

Need we mention Hitler....although im sure they are not that bad now

Not all of them are, but need I mention Jorg Haider?

Dhavlos · Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham

Isnt there some right wing netherlands guy who is anti-immigration or something as well?
hes 'well built' and bleach-blond but i cant rememeber his name...he may be a eurocrat, i dunno.