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s300

personally I have given up hoping for a solution.Cyprus has no chance in hell of being solved.

The problem now is all I want is full compensation but how do you negotiate with someone with nothing to lose?

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

Apply to the newly formed compensation commitee in the North like other Greek Cypriot have done.

pg · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1485 Location: Cyprus

I would expect the first 'offer' to come out before 22 June...

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia

90% of everyone else is the same But what will we get PEANUTS??????
What are we monkeys?
Most want to give the Greek Cypriot nothing!
And Most Turkish Cypriot have already forfeited they land to the land board or something like that:
BUT Who will give us what we really deserve:
If the Gypsies of Paphos ended us as millionaire what of the people of Kyrenia, Famagusta and Morphou who where richer that anyone in Paphos would ever be:
What do they get:
While I am here let me add my famous WORDS OF WISDOM:
Where will the compensation come from?
The Bastards who caused this tragedy:
Greece, Turkey, Britain, Russia and the USA: and
(The last two because of there Cold War Game):
And where will the money come from?
One less F16 in this years Military budget:
Hey they just lost 2 a few weeks ago:
I am not greedy:
22 Scallas by $100,000 Euros per scalla:
Get the calculator and add it up:
I have the Deeds, Kochania or Titlos ready when you are!
3 cheers for the Poor:

Crash Test Dummy · Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 4909 Location: London(ish)

as ever you will get 2 groups of people.

the ones that know people who will end up with beachfront land and the others will get peanus

s300 · Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:43 am Post subject:

Quote: as ever you will get 2 groups of people.

the ones that know people who will end up with beachfront land and the others will get peanus

Yeah well they can keep the penis I like Pussy

Alexios · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

[quote=\"s300\"]personally I have given up hoping for a solution.Cyprus has no chance in hell of being solved.

The problem now is all I want is full compensation but how do you negotiate with someone with nothing to lose?[/quote]

I am very interested to Know WHY you have given up hope.Are you one of those G/C who would prefer to live separately from the T/Cs??

s300 · Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:29 am Post subject:

Quote: I am very interested to Know WHY you have given up hope.Are you one of those G/C who would prefer to live separately from the T/Cs??

I have lived in a modern civilized democracy and have lived like a human being under the rule of law. I don't consider living under a plan like what we have been offered a solution. You may consider it good enough but I don't. My attitude is when you limit democracy and the rule of law by creating minority privileges which out of all proportion and where these privileges act to basically tell a refugee you cannot live like an ordinary citizen of a developed democracy then you can take Occupied Cyprus you can give the Turks the rest because personally I don't care about Paphos, Larnaca or wherever when its only the Kyrenians and most other refugees who are basically being told disappear for free.

Alexios · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

[quote=\"s300\"] Quote: I am very interested to Know WHY you have given up hope.Are you one of those G/C who would prefer to live separately from the T/Cs??

I have lived in a modern civilized democracy and have lived like a human being under the rule of law. I don't consider living under a plan like what we have been offered a solution. You may consider it good enough but I don't. My attitude is when you limit democracy and the rule of law by creating minority privileges which out of all proportion and where these privileges act to basically tell a refugee you cannot live like an ordinary citizen of a developed democracy then you can take Occupied Cyprus you can give the Turks the rest because personally I don't care about Paphos, Larnaca or wherever when its only the Kyrenians and most other refugees who are basically being told disappear for free.[/quote]

An interesting way to say you prefer partition....

depurple · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia

Boys stop the yapping and start cutting the checks!!!
I am the luckiest: I will get compensating from my grandfather and then being born in Australia with Australia Parents I can go to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and buy a house next to Raulf and sit on the balcony and play backgammon:
Isn't it a wonder full world!
cheers

Alexios · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

[quote=\"depurple\"]Boys stop the yapping and start cutting the checks!!!
I am the luckiest: I will get compensating from my grandfather and then being born in Australia with Australia Parents I can go to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and buy a house next to Raulf and sit on the balcony and play backgammon:
Isn't it a wonder full world!
cheers[/quote]

Are you sure you can do even that Depurple?? :?

s300 · Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:50 am Post subject:

Alexios, is there a difference between partition and what has been offered? Are you saying that genuine Unity is being offered?

Obviously being from Kyrenia I am opposed to Partition and I would prefer to have the right to live in my house in a normal democracy but that is not in the cards so I want fully blown compensation with tzerata(horns).Personally I don't care what happens to Cyprus after I am compensated. Turkey deserves to be given the rest because the handfull of Greek Cypriots left on the island can't stop from selling each other out. Do you think I care about Limassol or tou dialou ths manas?They are all Ahaireftoi!

Alexios · Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976

s300 wrote: Alexios, is there a difference between partition and what has been offered? Are you saying that genuine Unity is being offered?

Obviously being from Kyrenia I am opposed to Partition and I would prefer to have the right to live in my house in a normal democracy but that is not in the cards so I want fully blown compensation with tzerata(horns).Personally I don't care what happens to Cyprus after I am compensated. Turkey deserves to be given the rest because the handfull of Greek Cypriots left on the island can't stop from selling each other out. Do you think I care about Limassol or tou dialou ths manas?They are all Ahaireftoi!

S300. We will never really find out how the Annan plan would have worked out.I can understand how you feel and i personally have a soft spot for people from Kyrenia, who for decades now have been used and abused by successive Cyprus governments promising that our borders are in Kyrenia, knowing that such thing would never be.Compensation is one thing and i dont blame anybody opting for it.However, what seems to escape us,is the very real possibility that partition, even an agreed one, will sooner or later turn the North into just another Turkish province with all the subsequent negative results for both G/Cs and T/cs.
Anyhow, it seems that the compensation committee in the North is now handing out cheques to the first applicants and if compensation is all you care about,maybe it's about time you applied.If i were you however, as soon as i got the money in the Bank i would sail off to Zanzibar or Sweeden and forget Cyprus.Sooner or later this will be the only choice for people who cannot bear watching the permanent division of Cyprus while politicians on our side sit idle, either because deep down they dont believe in reunification, or because this idleness suits them very well.I have said many times before and i repeat it now.Most of them have no reason to exist without the Cyprus problem.What's worse, gradually, the majority of the population are getting accustomed to the idea of division.I tell you now and i am willing to place a bet with anybody on this.Unless something miraculous takes place very soon, the day will come when we the G/Cs ourselves will opt for partition......

brother · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus

Refugees seeking cash from north’s property commission

Quote: THE MAJORITY of displaced Greek Cypriots seeking redress in the north for loss of properties after the invasion are opting out of returning to their homes and going for the cash.

Quote: But according to daily Politis, most of the Greek Cypriot refugees (around 10) who have turned to the commission are asking for monetary compensation for their lands.

What’s more, they are waiving any claim for non-use of their properties since 1974. And in some cases the claimants are settling for amounts that fall well short of the real value of their property.
Without naming names, the paper mentioned the case of a refugee from Kyrenia who has given up on returning to his property, even though he is entitled to. His tract of land does not ‘belong’ to a Turkish Cypriot, nor has any development taken place on it. Yet the man simply wants a cash settlement.

Another Greek Cypriot is the owner of six donums of real estate in the occupied part of Nicosia. The Bayrak television station now lies on it. According to Politis, the owner did not even bother filing for restitution, knowing he stood no chance of winning – the ‘property law’ enacted by the breakaway regime excludes public utilities buildings and ‘national interest’ facilities from undergoing a change in ownership.

Undeterred, the practical-minded owner went for compensation, asking for some £300,000. The paper commented that he could have got a lot more for the land, suggesting the person was desperate to close the deal and raise some cash.

Meanwhile a Greek Cypriot currently living in Britain and filing a claim has also opted for a cheque, even though the commission informed him that he was entitled to having his property returned to him. The man is reportedly asking for £2 million.

Press reports said that in the coming days the commission is set to announce its decisions on eight cases, so that it can then present itself to the ECHR as an effective “domestic legal means” that resolves property claims.

Full article here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=26364&cat_id=1

cypezokyli · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

it would be very interesting to see the development after the first checks are handed out.
possible scenarios : 1 . a massive attack from the media and politicians to make these people appear as traitors. that might stop the process....for a while

2 : a snowball effect, with more and more Greek Cypriots applying , with unpredicable concequences for the solution of the cyppro ...(or shoudl i say , very predictable concequences.... )

...if turkey also manages to fullfill the criteria of the ECHR , my money would go for the second one.
ofcource the possible scenarios are not 2 but 102 , but thats imo the most possible ones.