www.talkcyprus.org

andreask · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3

Dear forum users,

This site is great. im excited to be a member.

I would like to personally invite you to join another awesome Cyprus Forum website...

Join us today and discuss Cyprus today.

Best regards,
Andreas.

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

:welcome: to the forum andreask.

If your into checking out websites on Cyprus problem, I'd suggest you check out www.embargoed.org for the "other side of the coin". Your priority might be troops out of Cyprus, as a Turkish Cypriot, mine is equal rights for all and end to all embargoes on Turkish Cypriots/North Cyprus.

Look forward to your thoughts on these and other aspects of Cyprus/Cypriot life...

cypezokyli · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

hi andreask , :welcome:

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if i am allowed a small comment about your website : how did you guys managed to misspell den xehno ?

Khan · Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

hi,

Less demonising of Turkey, more understanding of Turkish Cypriots, thats what i suggest to your forum :)

andreask · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3

RudeGal wrote: Your priority might be troops out of Cyprus, as a Turkish Cypriot, mine is equal rights for all and end to all embargoes on Turkish Cypriots/North Cyprus.

Look forward to your thoughts on these and other aspects of Cyprus/Cypriot life...

How can the rights of Greek Cypriots be equal to that of Turkish Cypriots when there is a clear illegal violation of human rights on Cyprus and has been for the past 32 years.

andreask · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3

i invite you to come over and discuss this with our community at www.justiceforcyprus.com

Civil communication ofcourse :)

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

andreask wrote: RudeGal wrote: Your priority might be troops out of Cyprus, as a Turkish Cypriot, mine is equal rights for all and end to all embargoes on Turkish Cypriots/North Cyprus.

Look forward to your thoughts on these and other aspects of Cyprus/Cypriot life...

How can the rights of Greek Cypriots be equal to that of Turkish Cypriots when there is a clear illegal violation of human rights on Cyprus and has been for the past 32 years. There's been a violation on Turkish Cypruot human rights, which has been ongoing for 42+ years! A fair solution requires the two peoples of Cyprus to recognise and understand the trauma of both sides in this sad and tragic conflict. And to move forward with a solution that respects the needs of both peoples...

Happy to continue this dialogue here or elsewhere, but I think andreask you should take time out to look at some of the threads on this site and also at some Turkish Cypriot sites so you can become better informed about the other side's past and needs (as I and other Turkish Cypriots have done with Greek Cypriot perspective - and we're still learning!), then we can have a more meaningful discussion...

And the best thing about TalkCyprus is that it really is balanced and the collective wisdom on this site is awesome.

cannedmoose · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:29 am Post subject:

Andreask, I would suggest that since the other forum is so against the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the administrator of the site should not also seek to profit from that occupation. The site is loaded with google ads, all of which advertise holidays/property/car hire in Northern Cyprus... it is possible to prevent this and the administrator is being somewhat hypocritical by not doing so... therefore they are profiteering from the occupation. Perhaps you should search your soul about promoting this. :roll:

As you will note, this forum does not contain Google ads and is a genuine effort to foster bicommunal dialogue. The other forum is perfect for those of a Greek Cypriot persuasion certainly, but it's more likely to turn into a mutual backslapping/shouting match than anything constructive.

The Cypriot · Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 429

andreask wrote: Dear forum users,

This site is great. im excited to be a member.

I would like to personally invite you to join another awesome Cyprus Forum website... www.JusticeForCyprus.com

Join us today and discuss Cyprus today.

Best regards,
Andreas.

Andreas

I suggest, if you and your colleagues really want 'JusticeForCyprus' you campaign for all Cypriots whose human rights have been trampled over since division took root - regardless of background. And you go out of your way to include and involve all Cypriots in your work. That would be 'awsome'.

Otherwise, like Embargoed!, all you're doing is pissing in the wind.

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: thanks for your replies

andreask wrote: i invite you to come over and discuss this with our community at www.justiceforcyprus.com

Civil communication ofcourse :)

Civil communications? With a handful Turk haters? There is nothing "awesome" about your site. As a matter of fact it really sucks. You are there for two reasons. Profit and to agitate.

andytandreou · Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 239 Location: Larnaka

OMG!!! Seriously? That site looks like a the "evil twin" of CF... I went in to have a look and the first thing i saw was "I WON'T FORGET" (in Greek) spelled incorrectly and Google ads advertising North-Cyprus property!!!

Thanks for you efforts Andreas but I'm happy with talkcyprus at the moment.

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

The Cypriot wrote: I suggest, if you and your colleagues really want 'JusticeForCyprus' you campaign for all Cypriots whose human rights have been trampled over since division took root - regardless of background. And you go out of your way to include and involve all Cypriots in your work. That would be 'awsome'.

Otherwise, like Embargoed!, all you're doing is pissing in the wind.
The Cypriot, that's pure BS! Embargoed are far more effective than you appreciate (or care to accept!):

1) raising awareness of blatant inequality on island - more and more people now realising Greek Cypriots not only victims on island and issue did not arise in 1974 (as Greek Cypriot propaganda always projects)

2) pressuing world to fulfil promises on equal treatment - if political solution can't happen because two sides can't agree, you can't expect Turkish Cypriots to be discriminated against indefinitely. cyprus is their home too and they have rights!

3) unifying Turkish Cypriots - Annan Plan very divisive between London Turkish Cypriots and ones in Cyprus. Visit to London of Oya Talat (North Cyprus Pres wife) in effort to build bridges ("The Silent Walk", http://www.embargoed.org/press_releases.php?id=57 ) shows Embargoed! getting there on this too.

Had Greek Cypriots truly moved on since 1963, they would be involved in this campaign to normalise the situation for all in Cyprus re: equal rights & opportunities for Turkish Cypriots, and in doing so shape agenda to also reflect their needs. Instead Greek Cypriots continue to focus on own needs only (demilitarisation, refugees homes, maintaining power base in grabbed/stole in 1963...), so it's not surprising Turkish Cypriots now doing it for themselves!!!

The Cypriot · Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 429

RudeGal wrote: The Cypriot, that's pure BS! Embargoed are far more effective than you appreciate (or care to accept!): Please explain yourself. What's pure BS?

repulsewarrior · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Canada

Easy RudeGal, Cypriot got your craw by falling into the writer's bane, with a generalsing opinion, to make his point. What I believe he is saying is that neither party takes the view that Cypriots suffer many forms of injustice, seeking freedom from their subjugation, they are learning little from each other. Neither is building on an alliance, for cooperation, against injustice, in recognition of each others pain, and in concordance, against the intolerant, and their rhetoric, which keeps us, as people, in isolation, divided from each other.

RudeGal · Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London

repulsewarrior wrote: Easy RudeGal, Cypriot got your craw by falling into the writer's bane, with a generalsing opinion, to make his point. What I believe he is saying is that neither party takes the view that Cypriots suffer many forms of injustice, seeking freedom from their subjugation, they are learning little from each other. Neither is building on an alliance, for cooperation, against injustice, in recognition of each others pain, and in concordance, against the intolerant, and their rhetoric, which keeps us, as people, in isolation, divided from each other. I appreciate where his coming from tho' I think Embargoed is very different from the other Greek Cypriot focussed sites. For one, it is not about demonising Greek Cypriots (as JusticeCyprus and others seem to promote). If it was, I would not support it. Yes its focus is on Turkish Cypriots and that's a good thing cos we need to balance the debate and check the propaganda! Don't forget, Turkish Cypriots don't officially exist (which is why I thought Oya Talat's visit and call to Turkish Cypriot women as "The Silent Walk" was so apt) so we have less opportunity/platforms to explain and correct misrepresentations about Cyprus to int'al community.

I think the diverse range of people involved means its approach is more considered and they don't (as far as I can see) deny Greek Cypriot rights. e.g. they have some novel ideas about capturing info re: Greek Cypriot pain & perspective to help educate Turkish Cypriots. I think therefore they should be assisted, not slated!

The Cypriot, BS is a rude word, not right I say here (but surely you can imagine what B and S stand for? :wink: ). You caught me on a tired, time of the month kinda moment so I just had to fulfil my name & lash out. So no hard feelings, tho' your comment on E is not correct.