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moonskin



Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Location: Freiburg, Germany

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Petition for a DEMILITARIZED NICOSIA  

Quote: A DEMILITARISED NICOSIA will enable

- the demilitarisation of the island;

- reunification of the island;

- transferring the no man’s land to an area used by everyone;

- using no man’s land for social and cultural purposes;

- opening dead ends to ease the traffic flow;

- discussing the military camps in other cities and villages;

- ending the military ceremonies encouraging chauvinism and hatred;

- inter communal trust through the process of solution.

Therefore, I support the demilitarisation of Nicosia.


The website for the petition can be accessed with:
http://www.ykp.org.cy/demnicosia/index.php

The website is trilingual and you can sign the petition by adding your name (requires verification through email).

Supported by Takis Hadjidemetriou, Alpay Durduran, Nese Yasin, Hasan Hastürer, Hasan Kahvecioglu, Sevgül Uludag, Andreas Paraschos, Sener Levent, Jus Bayada, Makarios Drousiotis, Ahmet An, Panicos & Elli Peonidou, Fatma Azgin, Dina Mousteri, and more .
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cypezokyli



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject:  

saw you there, gardash :wink:
i am there too.... there are also greeks there! , one of which is a singer : miltiadis pashalidis. lets get many
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Kifeas



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2733
Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Petition for a DEMILITARIZED NICOSIA  

moonskin wrote: Quote: A DEMILITARISED NICOSIA will enable

- the demilitarisation of the island;

- reunification of the island;

- transferring the no man’s land to an area used by everyone;

- using no man’s land for social and cultural purposes;

- opening dead ends to ease the traffic flow;

- discussing the military camps in other cities and villages;

- ending the military ceremonies encouraging chauvinism and hatred;

- inter communal trust through the process of solution.

Therefore, I support the demilitarisation of Nicosia.


The website for the petition can be accessed with:
http://www.ykp.org.cy/demnicosia/index.php

The website is trilingual and you can sign the petition by adding your name (requires verification through email).

Supported by Takis Hadjidemetriou, Alpay Durduran, Nese Yasin, Hasan Hastürer, Hasan Kahvecioglu, Sevgül Uludag, Andreas Paraschos, Sener Levent, Jus Bayada, Makarios Drousiotis, Ahmet An, Panicos & Elli Peonidou, Fatma Azgin, Dina Mousteri, and more .

Very nice idea but unfortunately ...not feasible before a final solution, for many reasons! There are some 150,000 mainland Turks (settlers, register and non register workers, etc,) currently living and /or working in the north. Who will keep them from not crossing to the south if the entire Nicosia center becomes completely open and unguarded? Furthermore and from the other side's perspective, what will be the use of the check points and the passport controls by the T/C side, if everyone will be able to use the hundreds of streets in the old Nicosia to cross north and south, without even been noticed?
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cypezokyli



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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject:  

Quote:
- opening dead ends to ease the traffic flow;
are you reffereing to this kifeas ?
i am not sure, if that implies no control at cross points.
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Kifeas



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject:  

cypezokyli wrote: Quote:
- opening dead ends to ease the traffic flow;
are you reffereing to this kifeas ?
i am not sure, if that implies no control at cross points.

Then what kind of demilitarization is going to be? There are tens of streets connecting the north and south Nicosia center. Just take a map and look at it. If all the armies and the road blocks are removed, it means that every single little road becomes an entry /exit pass from /to north /south Nicosia center and from then on to the entire of Nicosia and Cyprus. How is it going to be controlled?
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Crash Test Dummy



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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Location: London(ish)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject:  

Kifeas is right. As long as there are 2 seperate areas. Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus 'state' there must be some border controls.

Maybe allow more and easier access but dont open the entire border. Its unsafe
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cypezokyli



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 2344

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject:  

we will also have access :wink:
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Kifeas



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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject:  

cypezokyli wrote: we will also have access :wink:

Perhaps we should ask Zambellas if he is willing to allow the checkpoints and the army road blocks to be erected in Solomou, Eleftherias and Oxi squares, outside the walls. :?
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pg



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1485
Location: Cyprus

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject:  

Kifeas wrote: cypezokyli wrote: we will also have access :wink:

Perhaps we should ask Zambellas if he is willing to allow the checkpoints and the army road blocks to be erected in Solomou, Eleftherias and Oxi squares, outside the walls. :?

Why not in Dhali, for minimum interference...
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Khan



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 1092
Location: London

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject:  

Why cant the armed soldiers be replaced with unarmed policemen and border guards Kifeas?
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Crash Test Dummy



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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Location: London(ish)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject:  

I am going to sign it as I know it will scale down the military presence not remove it.
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Crash Test Dummy



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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Location: London(ish)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject:  

ID FirstName LastName Date
182 Giorgio Demetriou 2006-04-18 21:07:49


Everybody Sign It
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cypezokyli



Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 2344

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject:  

exactly CTD.
if you see the Greek Cypriot supporters are mostly yes-supporters.
it is mostly to show, that some people still care and are willing to do something about it. i dont think they are so optimist that they can convince pap or talat to have no control between north and south.
any effect that this petition can have , can only be positive
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depurple



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 2879
Location: Australia

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject:  

Boys I agree with the de militarization of Nicosia and have signed it and suggested Rebuilding the walls around Nicosia to how they where 1000 years ago: They will look AWESOME:
Imagine driving toward Nicosia and seeing there Huge walls like: TROY or Ayers Rock or Lord of the Rings:
It will also make a great Wind Break and a Tourist attraction:
What do you think?
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Gardash



Joined: 20 Jan 2006
Posts: 281

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject:  

WOOHOO supported by a relative of mine! Forza Familia!
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