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How many Greek Cypriot would accept large $payout for land in the North
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depurple



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: How many Greek Cypriot would accept large $payout for land in the North  

How many Greek Cypriot would consider accepting a LARGE payout compensation NOT peanuts like is always offered BUT prices base on current South pricing in equivalent locations:
EX:
Land 50 meter from the beach 2 million EURO:per scalla
Land 500 meters 1,000,000 EURO:per scalla
Land 1KLM 500,000 EURO per scalla
Land 2KLM 250,000 EURO per scalla
ect ect
Have a scale system:
Don't give me the where the money is going to some from?
Has anyone out there got any idea how much Turkey,Greece, Cyprus and UK spend on defense????????????????????
Do you know how much money the bases are worth in the South After a solution?
Do you have any idea how mush the US & EU is will to give to see Turkey join the EU and have no NATO problems:
THE MONEY IS NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But with this compensation you will aloud to visit the North as a tourist and eventually buy some land again:
I would accept it for the sake of a solution and I don't need the money:
Offer the money and lets see who will take it and how will not?
Give them promises and Peanut you know where you can put the peanuts:
Come on Offer the money and lets see!
This applies to the South and that is why I asked Erolz who got the land from the Turkish Cypriot and if it is the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus they will be sitting on a GOLD MINE:
People answering the POLL should ask their relations who own land as well:
Money or the BOX?
You can count me in call me a traitor:
I have the 22 Scalla near the beach at Arkotissa=11 Million EURO and 28 at Lapta (Cheap Land)= 7 Million EURO Total 18 Million EURO that is less than one millionth of what the all spend defending Cyprus:
My account number T/T the money is Bank of Melbourne external account no 333978 branch 452312: Email to confirm:
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Alexios



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject:  

I love your honesty Deepurple...I wish all forum members were the same....whether i agree with you or not is irrelevant...
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depurple



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject:  

So even with nearly 50% saying they will sell so far it shows that NOT all will return to the North: Most people said the CG will ask for their land and never compensation BUT what I know is IF the compensation is an Honest amount taking into account all the years of lost profits then I am certain that many will accept the money for a solution: Then I would buy a holiday apartment in Lapta for the weekend:
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Viewpoint



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject:  

depurple lets hope the new commission set up to remedy the problem will payout market prices that will allow refugees to claim compensation. If the first case is dealt with correctly I feel the flood gates will be open and many Greek Cypriots will accept monetary comprensation. In this case what do you think will happen to the Turkish Cypriots property in the south? will we still have to wait for a solution?
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depurple



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject:  

NO the Turkish Cypriot MUST get the same deal OR there will be no solution unless everyone is part of it:
But what I heard is that many signed over their land and the people who now have the Turkish Cypriot land will benefit BUT the Turkish Cypriot should not accept this they were tricked by Denktash ALL Turkish Cypriot should get compensation for their legal land with out the trickery that Denktash & Clerides did:
I am sure if the Turkish Cypriot get their proper compensation many will not return to the south but maybe buy a holiday apartment and sit in the sun and drink brandy sours:
2 x F18 should do the trick! One from Greece, One Turkey and one Harrier from Britain:
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Viewpoint



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject:  

But if a Turkish Cypriot has signed over his land in the south for something in the north and utilized this property then surely he no longer has any claim on the land in south, that would be sold off by the property commission or offered to a Greek Cypriot who left equivelent land in the north. Otherwise the Turkish Cypriot would have to return the land in the north and have his land in south reinstated but this Turkish Cypriot may have built his whole life on the land in the north and has no intention of ever returning to the south.
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boomerang



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject:  

Viewpoint wrote: depurple lets hope the new commission set up to remedy the problem will payout market prices that will allow refugees to claim compensation. If the first case is dealt with correctly I feel the flood gates will be open and many Greek Cypriots will accept monetary comprensation. In this case what do you think will happen to the Turkish Cypriots property in the south? will we still have to wait for a solution?

Can I ask you when and who will pay the compensation?

Just a thought - If Turkey decides to pay everyone and buy all the land then you might have your partition. Why wait for an Annan plan...Just pay all costs associated with the compensation claims and the majority of the North will be Turkish Cypriot...Problem solved today...An excellent plan.
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depurple



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject:  

Everyone asks the same question:
3 xF18:I will make it simple again!
One by Turkey (For invading Cyprus)
One by Greek (For making the coupe)
One by Britain (For not paying rents for the bases for 30 years)
Just 1% of all their Military spending will pay for everyone: You guys have NO IDEA how much they all spend on the Military DO YOU?
Also the EU & the US will pour in MEGA BUCKS to end this stalemate up!
READ MY LIPS!
There are no money issues for compensation: Cyprus has cost Turkey and Greece trillions!!!! and it still going!
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lionfish



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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject:  

my friend in protaras owns 3 donums on the beach near kyrenia he said he would take the money if it was a decent amount, because he thinks he will be dead by the time a settlement is agreed to suit all parties. he never said how much would be a decent amount, it has not been built on so far. how much do you think would be fair? for all parties.
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Viewpoint



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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject:  

boomerang wrote: Viewpoint wrote: depurple lets hope the new commission set up to remedy the problem will payout market prices that will allow refugees to claim compensation. If the first case is dealt with correctly I feel the flood gates will be open and many Greek Cypriots will accept monetary comprensation. In this case what do you think will happen to the Turkish Cypriots property in the south? will we still have to wait for a solution?

Can I ask you when and who will pay the compensation?

Just a thought - If Turkey decides to pay everyone and buy all the land then you might have your partition. Why wait for an Annan plan...Just pay all costs associated with the compensation claims and the majority of the North will be Turkish Cypriot...Problem solved today...An excellent plan.

I agree its a good option and either way (ECHR OR local remedy) Turkey will have to pay compensation, taking this route means they will not have to hand to property back if ever a solution is found. As the refugees agree monetary compensation the remaining % will be easier to solve.
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depurple



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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject:  

Lionfish the main problem with everyone is the compensation: The people who lost the land do not trust any political leader: How can the shit land in Pafos in 1974 be worth millions when the land in Kyrenia and Morphou and Famagusta was worth 100 time what pafos is worth: In easy terms the poor of Pafos and Larnaca and Limassol became the rich and rich became the poor: In 1972 my father bought 22 scalas in Lapta BUT he could of bought 120 scallas in Limassol and we saw the land, 200 in Larnaca and your guess is as good as mine how many he could of bought in Pafos!!!!!
I say a fair compensation will be based on distance from the beach:Go in Kilometers:
On the beach side on the road? What is the beach side of the road worth in Limassol & Ayia Napa & Pafos? I/2 million per scalla:
I kilometer away 500,000: Just base the prices on existing land on the island:
BUT remember before 1974 Kyrenia, Morphou and Famagusta was worth a lot more that Limassol, Larnaca and specially Pafos:
Remember there are about 300,000 refugees on both side But how many families, Say 200,000 my guess: So if you gave them all 1 million EUROS that is only 200 million compensation: That not even a 1985 F16 BIG DEAL:
Give them all 5 million EUROS that's only 1 billion: Divide that by 3: Greece, Turkey, Britain that is still only 1 x 1999 F16 each:
But give everyone 10 Million EUROS each then it is one 2005 F18 each: Big Deal:They spend 100 tome that amount on defense in a year:
Your answer lionfish is:1.5 Million EUROS to 3 million EUROs would he sell for this:
Remember never say where the money is coming from the money is there!!!! Money is not the issue:The EU would give 5 billion to see this thing over:
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lionfish



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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject:  

depurple im with you on that one but my friend has only 3 donums , whats the difference? money should be no obstacle as you quite rightly pointed out , how much has been wasted on the security of the island already. p.s whats the weather like? im freezing my nuts off in bonny scotland .. even the rabby burns whiskey has,nt helped
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lionfish



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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject:  

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DONUM AND A SCALA? and would any of you on the forum move back and reinvest the dosh?
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depurple



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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject:  

Lion Fish Kifeas knows that answer:He is the coolest on Cyprus Arithmetic's:
I read it but I did not note it:
I think Kifeas said a scalla is 1000 Square Meters where a Donum is 1200 Square:
Kifeas where are you? Just email him: He will answer quickly:
Melbourne we have had 40C But tomorrow when Bagdahtis plays Federer it will be mid 30C:
it will be open air because that is why the Australian Open is so popular: Fingers crossed and you never know a joint Cypriots Greek Cypriot & Turkish Cypriot playing the for the world Cup one Day and we will show the Greeks & the Turks that we are Cypriots:
Scotland is beautiful:
The closet I have been to Scotland is Yorkshire:
PS I just bought 10 Cyprus Flags to hand out tomorrow at the match:
Cheers
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lionfish



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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject:  

thanks depurple KIFEAS WHERE ARE YOU??. SCOTLAND IS BEAUTIFUL but always cold and wet, give me aussie or cyprus any day.
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