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[Xenos 2Fan]

What will they think of next?


http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=29647

[Bullika]

jesus, a dog ripped her face off!! :(

[Xenos 2Fan]

MEHMET_OSMAN_KKTC wrote: jesus, a dog ripped her face off!! :(

Repugnant ain't it?

[Bullika]

theres nothing worse than having a snotty rockweiler with a saliva problem chase you down the street trying to make love to your left leg or trying to open a vein in your leg. If I had a cent for every time a dog in Cyprus tried to get to the marrow of your bones, i d be a rich man.

[brother]

I watched an in depth program on BBC news about this and even though she is doing well they cannot guarrantee that her body will not reject the transplant either now or at a later date and could leave her worst off but otherwise man knid has yet again achieved another magnificent fete.

[cannedmoose]

brother wrote: I watched an in depth program on BBC news about this and even though she is doing well they cannot guarrantee that her body will not reject the transplant either now or at a later date and could leave her worst off but otherwise man knid has yet again achieved another magnificent fete.

Whatever happens, she'll be on strong immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of her life, which gives her a very high chance of cancer. It is certainly an achievement, but its certainly not a cureall. Let's hope all goes well for this person anyway it sounds like it was an horrific attack. I also hope the owner of the dog was prosecuted for GBH. I have been attacked by rogue dogs a couple of times while walking my own dog in the park (many people don't keep their dogs on the lead like they are supposed to)... luckily no rottweilers or anything that didn't retreat after a couple of swift kicks, but I dread the day when I might have to face something like that. It may sound silly but I'd rather the dog do damage to me in a struggle than kill my dog.

[Xenos 2Fan]

cannedmoose wrote: brother wrote: I watched an in depth program on BBC news about this and even though she is doing well they cannot guarrantee that her body will not reject the transplant either now or at a later date and could leave her worst off but otherwise man knid has yet again achieved another magnificent fete.

Whatever happens, she'll be on strong immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of her life, which gives her a very high chance of cancer. It is certainly an achievement, but its certainly not a cureall. Let's hope all goes well for this person anyway, it sounds like it was an horrific attack. I also hope the owner of the dog was prosecuted for GBH. I have been attacked by rogue dogs a couple of times while walking my own dog in the park (many people don't keep their dogs on the lead like they are supposed to)... luckily no rottweilers or anything that didn't retreat after a couple of swift kicks, but I dread the day when I might have to face something like that. It may sound silly but I'd rather the dog do damage to me in a struggle than kill my dog.

As wonderful as dogs are some are just not fit to exist among humans and other dogs and some humans should not be allowed to own dogs.

Two weeks ago I took my niece to Petsmart to purchase a frog for her. Petsmart is large pet store were owners are allowed to bring their dogs in on leashes of course. I saw a large mixed breed that was behaving rather agressively.

Minutes later, as we were waiting in line to check out, that same large dog got a hold of a much smaller dog that was walking by and just about killed it. It was a good thing that the both of them were on leashes. It was exrememly traumatising for my niece and the little girl and mother who owned the small dog. The owner of the big dog simply bailed out with his dog without even apologising.

[cannedmoose]

Just to correct myself, I've just been reading about this specific case. It appears that it wasn't the kind of attack that we're talking about, rather the dog was confused because the woman in question had taken a drugs overdose and the dog was simply trying desperately to wake her up. When she didn't wake up, it tried harder and caused the damage to her face. So not a case of aggression or lack of control, but a poor distressed animal worried about its owner. Unfortunately, the dog was later put down, against its owners wishes (it really annoys me when they euthanise an animal for doing nothing wrong, in 99% of cases, it's the owner's fault, not the dog).

[cannedmoose]

Xenos 2Fan wrote: The owner of the big dog simply bailed out with his dog without even apologising.

They never do... when one dog tried to attack mine and I gave it a hefty kick with my steel-capped boots, the owner even accused me of being cruel to his dog. Since it was about 5 times the size of mine and was jumping all over her snarling, what else was I expected to do? She said to me "I'm going to call the police!", to which I replied "Please do, then they can see that my dog has scratch marks, my arms have scratch marks from trying to defend her from your animal and you didn't have proper control of your animal, let's see who they take action against"... she walked off shouting abuse after that.

[Xenos 2Fan]

cannedmoose wrote: Just to correct myself, I've just been reading about this specific case. It appears that it wasn't the kind of attack that we're talking about, rather the dog was confused because the woman in question had taken a drugs overdose and the dog was simply trying desperately to wake her up. When she didn't wake up, it tried harder and caused the damage to her face. So not a case of aggression or lack of control, but a poor distressed animal worried about its owner. Unfortunately, the dog was later put down, against its owners wishes (it really annoys me when they euthanise an animal for doing nothing wrong, in 99% of cases, it's the owner's fault, not the dog).

:shock: I did not know that. That's pretty sad.

[Xenos 2Fan]

Here are more details.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4491310.stm

[magikthrill]

wow. they actually had an episode about this on a series here in the US called Nip/Tuck. Only in the show the transplant failed.

[turkkan]

It is more than that probably, over 50%, actually that this transplant will fail for the simple reason that it comes from a complete foreigner. Most kidney transplants are taken from near relatives that share common genes, or even better from a sibling,with which you share half youre genes with, that means the tissue from the two members is very similiar, and this has a large affect on the outcome of a transplant operation. Its the same with a liver, as you can simply cut a piece of liver from a donor, like youre mother or sibling perhaps, and it will grow back in the donor within a month. It is due to this that these particular transplant operations are so succesful. IN her case, and that of lung and heart transplants this is not the case, (well unless you have a family member brain dead), and this person is usually someone unknown (although they do go testing for tissue types and to see whether certain classes of molecules are similiar), and thus the chances of tissue rejection is quite great. The 5 year life expectancy for a heart and lung transplant, is somewhere around 30% i beleive, which is quite low. Furthermore, this face will probably be infected with viruses , such as the herpes one that most of have or EP, most of the population has it and is dormant in most. THe moment this woman is loaded with immunosuppresive drugs those viruses will start showing themselves and the term 'cold sore' will get a completely new meaning. This is seen often in HIV patients, their faces blackens partially sometimes due to the simple herpes viruss that usually only gives the average patient small sores. Her chances of getting cancer also sky rocket. In general, a lot of health professionals beleive, since this was not a life or death situation, this procedure was unwarranted, and for a cosmetic procedure the risk was of the charts for her life. SHe understandably choose otherwise though, but this does open a pandoras box in ethics, with how far a patient is allowed to go in cosmetic surgery before he starts threatening his life, and whether a doctor should legal carry out such operations.