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[brother]

Beware the Priests Playing Politics

That's the sentiment of Loucas Charalambous, as expressed here:

Quote:
AS IF the officials of DIKO, ignorant journalists, deputies, government ministers and presidential aides were not enough, President Papadopoulos has now recruited the priests as well in the wretched campaign against the Annan plan. This campaign, which the president has been orchestrating from behind the scenes, is aimed at ensuring that people will reject the plan in the referendum to be held next month as part of the agreement Papadopoulos signed in New York.

Full article here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main_old.php?id=13605&archive=1

I have posted this article before in many forums as it disgusts me that priests are always ready to stick their nose in politics when their job is religion and spirituality etc. and this has been most evident in cyprus.

Also i felt the need to show many others how Tassos has no shame in using the church to get his own way.

(full cut and paste change to extract and link by erolz)

[Dhavlos]

Is thisan article from before the annan plan?

I agree with it.

Imo, the church should not be allowed to say anything about the state, or political life. The church should be soley a spiritual/religious body, and not have anything to do with politics.

There should be a law banning the church(or any religious figure for that matter) from talking/refering to/critisising/promoting/etc. the state.

They should not talk about the annan plan either, esp. if it is scaremongering, because it makes everyone feel guilty if the vote a certain way, esp. if they have a liking for the church.

Basically, the church is too powerful in politics.

[brother]

Dhavlos wrote: Is thisan article from before the annan plan?

I agree with it.

Imo, the church should not be allowed to say anything about the state, or political life. The church should be soley a spiritual/religious body, and not have anything to do with politics.

There should be a law banning the church(or any religious figure for that matter) from talking/refering to/critisising/promoting/etc. the state.

They should not talk about the annan plan either, esp. if it is scaremongering, because it makes everyone feel guilty if the vote a certain way, esp. if they have a liking for the church.

Basically, the church is too powerful in politics.


Yes it is dhavlos and we spoke about then aswell at 'voice' if you remember but the reason i bring it up again is that the priests are now going to celebrate the 'oxi' vote???????????? WTF has it got to do with the church???????

If hoca's were involved in politics and swaying the faithful in mosques it would be seen by the west as fundementalism so hence the same must be for the church then.


But as the original post states look how Tassos has that dirty hand of his there as well.

[Dhavlos]

AS i said before, the church should have no role in the state. Celebrating OXI vote? oh dear :( Once the older generation have passed, i hope that the church will become less vociferous in politics, because the younger generation will not want them there! (i hope).

Im not anti-clerical....but i just belevie they should not have a say in the way the state is run/politics in general

[bg_turk]

The tactics Denktash used were pretty disgusting as well in his attempt to prevent the referendum. He was actively lobbying Turkey to intervene and not allow the vote to pass, thus undermining the soveregnity of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus by asking a foreign country to intervene against the will of its citizens.

[brother]

bg_turk wrote: The tactics Denktash used were pretty disgusting as well in his attempt to prevent the referendum. He was actively lobbying Turkey to intervene and not allow the vote to pass, thus undermining the soveregnity of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus by asking a foreign country to intervene against the will of its citizens.


The Turkish Cypriot had already given denktas his marching orders and that is why he never put himself up for being president again, the loss would have been humiliating for him.

[erolz]

brother wrote: The Turkish Cypriot had already given denktas his marching orders and that is why he never put himself up for being president again, the loss would have been humiliating for him.

That and the fact that the man was already 142 years old (ok he was 80+, but really he could not carry on being president much longer under any circumstances). :)

[brother]

Well with the church now becoming vocal and openly supporting Tpap this thread has become relevant again.

[100%cypriot]

And that is the point of the Turkish Military opposing Religion in politics ! The Greeks should learn a little from Turkey which does not give Religion that much Power as do the Greeks in Cyprus

[brother]

100%cypriot wrote: And that is the point of the Turkish Military opposing Religion in politics ! The Greeks should learn a little from Turkey which does not give Religion that much Power as do the Greeks in Cyprus

What is scary is that Tpap with the support from the church will probably win a second term and its quite frightening that history is repeating itself with the same man 'Tpap", reading the above article you could be forgiven for thinking it was wriiten recently.

I urge all Greek Cypriot who will be voting to take heed as the church is NOT qualified to interfere in politics and as i repeatedly say the church is for spiritual guidance not for advising you on whom to vote for in the coming elections and if anything any priest that does must have some financial or other gain from doing so as in the bible it no where says that the road to eternal life in heaven is through voting for your priests approved candidate.

[100%cypriot]

Brother your comments will fall on deaf ears , he dictates to his people and promises them everything and like SHEEP they follow and believe him , he is like a poker player who goes to the Table without any money and then expects to play the game .

[100%cypriot]

back to the topic , Greek Cypriots in general are very religious and will nearly always do what a priest tells them , their hands are as dirty as Grivas , Sampson , Junta for the Cyprus Problem

[100%cypriot]

Also the politicians know how religious the people are and offer the priests sweetners to advise their own sheep in every town in Cyprus

[brother]

100%cypriot wrote: Brother your comments will fall on deaf ears , he dictates to his people and promises them everything and like SHEEP they follow and believe him , he is like a poker player who goes to the Table without any money and then expects to play the game .

While in the past the many Greek Cypriot were sheep due to the closed borders, lack of information etc. that is certainly not true of today, many a Greek Cypriot have come and told me that they never knew this and that until the green line was opened, many have expressed that had they known what they know today they never would have voted Tpap, well i have faith in them to now do what the Turkish Cypriot done with Denktash and his policies and open their eyes to the truths and realities of cyprus and the man leading them and make a courageous stand against what has served in the last 4 years to push us further apart and effectively partition the island.

[100%cypriot]

i hope your faith is rewarded