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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:03 am    Post subject: last Sundays plane crash Reply with quote

I have heard really strange news re. this accident:

1. the men who reported to have received that text message from his cousin about people freezing has admitted that he was lying. He has been taken under arrest.
2. Helios offered the families of the victims 20.000 Euro per dead.

I'm wondering how some people think and behave. I mean how sick is it to give false reports just to appear in the media and how disrespectful is it to offfer money just one day after the incident..........???
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The money is the standard insurance payment, designed to cover funeral and other immediate costs, so it's normal for this to be announced and released quickly.

As for the 'fake text message', if this guy is lying, they should shut him away in an asylum for a few months... I don't think he'd do it again.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching my fellow cypriots on t.v and the pain they are going trough makes me really angry at this guys false statements, his words put in the head of relatives that they suffered before dying.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cannedmoose wrote:
The money is the standard insurance payment, designed to cover funeral and other immediate costs, so it's normal for this to be announced and released quickly. ......


Is that true? I can't remember to have come across this in other plane crashs...

P.S. Seems I should have posted this in "International news".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

city wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:
The money is the standard insurance payment, designed to cover funeral and other immediate costs, so it's normal for this to be announced and released quickly. ......


Is that true? I can't remember to have come across this in other plane crashs...

P.S. Seems I should have posted this in "International news".


It is the result of an antique piece of regulation - the 1929 Warsaw Convention - which is probably one of the oldest international treaties in existence.

In effect, the airline is obliged to pay out X (where X was originally 125,000 French francs) per victim in the event of any crash, then possibly many times more if "wilful misconduct" on the airline's part is proved. Of course that phrase (part of Article 25) is an open invitation to lawyers.

The most serious problem with the Warsaw Convention is that the mandatory compensation for lost baggage (Article 22) is hopelessly inadequate; as I remember it is now about £300. Not enough if, for example, a laptop vanishes.

Alastair

PS I worked in aviation for many years and the Warsaw Convention was mentioned in one context or another most days; it is fundamental.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the explanation Alastair.
I think the Warsaw convention is mentioned in most travel documents (like on the back of some tickets) explaining some rules and responsibilities.
Do I recall this correctly?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

city wrote:
Thanks for the explanation Alastair.
I think the Warsaw convention is mentioned in most travel documents (like on the back of some tickets) explaining some rules and responsibilities.
Do I recall this correctly?


Yes. It is surprisingly readable.

Alastair
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more news.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4172740.stm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still a bit strange that a flight attendant could have been wrestling with the controls as it dropped... with the loss of pressure and freezing temperatures I would have thought everyone would have been unconscious... a lot of things don't add up, we'll just have to wait for the enquiry to announce its findings... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

something tells me we're never going to really find out what happened...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magikthrill wrote:
something tells me we're never going to really find out what happened...


Sadly I think you may be right.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with that statement. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit more info here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=21485&archive=1
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor guy, if he tried to save the plane, he's a hero...

They ID'd my wife's second cousin yesterday via DNA so she was upset all over again. Still waiting for IDs on his wife and 2 kids Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very stressful time at the moosey household, i hope Mrs.Moose will be o.k and if there is anything i can do to help my friend please, please, please do ask.
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