Italian Police Brutality

bg_turk · Deputy Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1316 Location: Bulgaria

Italian polilce brutality.
While the EU is very good at pushing democratic reforms in Turkey, it seems sad that it cannot regulate its own members?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4332954.stm

garbitsch · Mukhtar/is Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 767 Location: Cyprus

Italian police had once shot down a globalisation protestor in 2002. The guy was dead. And we all know Italy is one of the 6 founders of EU.

garbitsch · Mukhtar/is Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 767 Location: Cyprus

I was talking about such kind of double standards bg, but you claimed there are no double standards in the EU. Or were you just teasing me?

bg_turk · Deputy Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 1316 Location: Bulgaria

garbitsch · Mukhtar/is Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 767 Location: Cyprus

Alright then

CY · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:

Its Berlusconi...dont get me started there. I study italian and have read many books about him...

brother · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject:

CY · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:

...the new "benevolent" dictator in europe. He's very clever though..I give him that.

brother · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject:

CY · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:

The thing is that he does not appear to be "bad, and evil" hence he is benevolent.

Basically he's got a huge amount of power. He owns the main TV programmes, AC Milan, Housing businesses etc..and so these are basically his propaganda making machines. He's part of a right wing coalition, his party is called Forza Italia and one party in the coalition, La Lega, wants to separate north italy from south and have very tough laws on immigration.

Anyway, I read that during recent elections, he sent a cartoon "happy" booklet to every home which showed how good Berlusconi is in a less direct and obvious way. He has also been put on and off trial so many times that he's been trying to convince the people that the judicary is "corrupt" (because they have been putting him on trial and have been trialling things about the communists and fascists from back in the '70s <--not so sure on this part tho so dont quote me).

Anyway, this is just a generally overview of what power he has..even stronger than Murdoch. Oh yeah, he's also linked with the Sicilian Mafia....kinda says it all really.

Dhavlos · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject:

and we thought cyprus was bad, politically

andytandreou · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject:

My sister is studying in Italy and she says it's a mess!! It's 1000 times worse than Cyprus apparently! Everyone is slack, laid-back and the police don't give a rats ass if you've just been killed, stabbed or mugged! Everyone from the Italian embassy in Cyprus to Silvio Berlusconi himself are slackers and time-wasting bureaucrats.

Did you know that an EU citizen has to go to 8 places in order to get the documentation to be able to study in Italy. You need four documents from different places and then you need to go to another four places to get those documents certified!!!

CY · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject:

I won this thing to go study in italy for a month this summer and queueing up and sorting out papers took aaaaaaaaaaaaages..it was a nightmare!! I felt sorry for all the people who came from outside the EU!

they have a littlejoke (ish) in italy, they call the bureaucracy the "slow" ocracy...sounds better in italian.
Burocrazia....lentocrazia.

brother · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject:

cannedmoose · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: