The EU reach a deal on starting Turkey talks.

gabs · Villager Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 98

2 fan

must agree with The Moose.....

yes turkey will be a big player in fifty years, but even more so if in Europe.

Immediate benefits?- foreign investment, and a general feelgood factor for the people of Turkey.
Turkey wanted Europe and have now been give that chance. Turkey has achieved much in the way of europeanisation and modernisation in the last few years, and here is an official endorsement.

Does it mean more money in turkish wage packets?..............well yes but not as much as the increase in cost of living which Turkish people can now look forward to. On this subject - that is the prices you will have to pay, you have no idea, how expensive its all going to get. Its a bit like getting married, but Good Luck to the Turkish people.

ps if your thinking of buying property do it now...

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:

No offense taken Moose, I welcome your honesty and expect it from you.

I concur with most of your thoughts however, I do not agree with you when you say that there may be a mass financial exodus if Turkey passes on membership. Especially if foreign investment is satisfied with the returns it is getting on it's principal. That's like me pulling my investment money from a company that chooses to do business with another company or country that I have no liking for. I think what matters is the bottom line. As I have stated before, Turkey will never turn her back on the EU completely as she is not politically or economically unsophisticated. All I'm saying is that in 10-15 years Turkey will have many many more choices to consider and she will not be held hostage by countries like Austria. I hope this makes sense. Having said this, I pray that these talks will lead to a permanent solution for Cyprus which is both fair to Turkey and to Cyprus.

BTW check your email again.

gabs · Villager Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 98

2fan

dont forget that in 10-15 as a member of europe together with its asian links and russian trade Turkey will become an International center for all sorts of Trade. She will be in an excellent economic environment, with huge commercial potential.

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject:

gabs · Villager Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 98

Bananiot · Deputy Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia

The news from Brussels are good this evening. Hopefully Turkey will become a full member in 10 or so years. My fear is that Cyprus may be side stepped now. Remember, back in 1999, when Greece of Simitis and George Papandreou pushed for the accession of Cyprus, it was not a case of sheer blackmail, I believe, but a very well thought of strategy that entailed the solution of the Cyprob and the accession of a united Cyprus to the EU. Turkey would reap the benefit of the effort she put to find a solution and would soon join Greece and Cyprus in the club. Things backfired when Simitis and Klerides lost the elections in Greece and Cyprus respectfully. Ferhoigen, speaking in a very undiplomatic language, accused Papadopoulos of deceiving the EU.

I now wonder whether Turkey would be in any hurry to solve the Cyprob. Perhaps turkey will do this on the eve of its accession, if and when it happens. By that time there will be no Cyprob to be solved. Papadopoulos has failed (did not even try) to attach the path of Turkey to the solution of the Cyprob and has done so missing several cornerstones like December last year and of course today. I think he did this on purpose. He knows that at the moment (and for ever, I believe) the only solution that can be negotiated is the one based on the A Plan. Thus, he will not make any move that will result in him accepting negotiations which will bring the A Plan in front of him again. He therefore let important dates pass while Cyprus gained nothing that can make us optimistic about a solution.

Nevertheless, I am glad Turkey will now start negotiations. Good luck.

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:19 am Post subject:

cannedmoose · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:

I think 2fan is my new best buddy Laughing

Congratulations, gia sou re

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:

cannedmoose · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:46 am Post subject:

Article in The Economist... as the title says, better late than never... but many pitfalls still lie ahead. Apparently it is Austria who assumes the EU Presidency next... just imagine this in conjunction with a Merkel/Sarkozy axis :?

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4474123

Serkan · Villager Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Australia

Hi guys,

Im new to the forum.

Here is an interesting link in regards to this topic if you have not already read it.

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=nN03617331

Cheers.

Xenos 2Fan · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:59 am Post subject:

Alexandros Lordos · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:35 am Post subject:

Bananiot · Deputy Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia

Oh dear! I heard Kleanthous (DIKO Vice President) on the radio this morning going to work. He explicitly said that the government will do anything to avoid a situation where it finds itself in front of Annan Plan as is or with minimal changes. It all makes sense now.

Alexandros said