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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Declaration of the European Union and its member states. Reply with quote

This is the entire final text of the EU counter declaration to the unilateral declaration by Turkey for the non-recognition of the republic of Cyprus.

(please note this is a re-translation from the Greek version and therefore there might be some slight wording differences between my translation and the original English text.)

Declaration of the European Union and its member states.

1. The EU and the member states acknowledge the signing by Turkey of the supplemental protocol of the association agreement between the Union and the member states on the one part and Turkey on the other, according to the Conclusions of the European council in December 2004. They express their disappointment that Turkey considered it necessary to proceed to a declaration with regards to the Republic of Cyprus at the very moment of the signing.

2. The EU and the member states make it clear that this declaration by Turkey is Unilateral, doesn’t constitute part of the protocol and doesn’t have any legal implications to Turkey’s obligations in relation to the protocol.

3. The EU and the member states expect full and non-discriminatory implementation of the supplemental protocol and the lifting of all the obstacles to the free movement of goods, including the barriers on transportation means. Turkey owes to fully implement the protocol with all the member states, The EU will monitor this step by step and will evaluate the full implementation in 2006. The Union and the member states emphasize that the opening of negotiations of the relating chapters depends on the implementation on behalf of Turkey of all its contractual obligations towards all the member states. The non-full implementation of these obligations will affect the whole progress of the accession negations.

4. The EU and the member states remind that the Republic of Cyprus has become a member state of the EU as of the 1st of May 2004. They also underline that they recognize the Republic of Cyprus only, as a subject of international law.

5. Recognition of all the member states is an essential ingredient of the accession process. Therefore, the EU underlines the importance that is attributed to the harmonization of relations between Turkey and all the member states, the soonest possible.

6. The EU council will undertake the examination in 2006, of the progress that will be achieved in all of these issues.

7. Within the context of this declaration, the EU and the member states agree to the importance of supporting the efforts of the UN SG to achieve a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem, according to the relevant UN SC resolutions and the principles on which the EU is founded, towards a just and lasting settlement which will contribute to peace, stability and the harmonious relations in the region.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems like a general agreement has been reached on this.

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2005/09/21/afx2235611.html


i wonder what arm twisting has gone on behind closed doors, and by whom?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabs wrote:
seems like a general agreement has been reached on this.

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2005/09/21/afx2235611.html


i wonder what arm twisting has gone on behind closed doors, and by whom?



Sorry Gabs but all i am getting at that link is a blank page.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bro ive copied and pasted it ...................


AFX News Limited
EU strikes accord in principle on Turkey membership standoff UPDATE
09.21.2005, 07:26 AM

(Updates with quote from EU presidency official, background in graphs 5/6)

BRUSSELS (AFX) - European Union ambassadors reached an agreement in principle on Wednesday on two key issues that have threatened to block the start of EU entry talks with Turkey next month, diplomats said.

The accord, which is expected to be approved formally later in the day, covers both a declaration on Turkey's refusal to recognize Cyprus, and the negotiating framework for talks due to start on Oct 3.

The ambassadors have 'agreed the declaration this morning and it will be adopted by written procedure,' said a British EU presidency official.

The official said: 'Several key delegations have lifted all their reserves on the negotiating framework,' adding: 'The negotiating framework is being discussed.'

An attempt formally to approve the declaration failed yesterday because of objections by Cyprus.

Key EU states, including notably Austria, have been pushing for Turkey to be offered an alternative to full EU membership.

EU leaders agreed last December to start membership talks with Turkey, despite its refusal to recognize the government of Cyprus, which joined the EU last May.

Tensions mounted in July when, while signing a protocol extending a customs accord with the EU to the bloc's 10 newest states, Turkey declared this did not amount to a recognition of Cyprus.

The island of Cyprus has been divided since 1974 when Turkey invaded the northern part to protect the Turkish Cypriot population following a pro-Greek coup.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also this one from Bloomgerg





Cyprus Approves EU-Turkey Text, Aiding Oct. 3 Entry Talks Plan
Sept. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Cyprus endorsed a European Union declaration on political and trade links with Turkey, ending a veto threat and boosting the EU's plans to start Turkish membership talks on Oct. 3.

The EU's 25 nations including Cyprus today approved a common response to Turkey's diplomatic boycott of the Greek-speaking island republic. A month-long dispute over the text sidetracked the EU, delaying a negotiating plan for Turkey that needs the backing of all member nations.

``Recognition of all member states is a necessary component of the accession process,'' the EU said in the statement released in Brussels. ``The EU underlines the importance it attaches to the normalization of relations between Turkey and all EU member states, as soon as possible.''

The Turkish government in July said its signature of a protocol extending a European trade accord to Cyprus did not mean that Ankara was recognizing the Cypriot republic. Signing the protocol was a condition the EU set in December for starting decade-long membership talks.

The EU declaration urges Turkey to ensure free trade with Cyprus. The bloc will review progress on this and the non- recognition issue in 2006, the statement says. Turkey has occupied the northern tier of Cyprus since a 1974 invasion following a pro-Greek coup.

Turkish Recognition

The statement says Turkey must recognize Cyprus to win entry and in the meantime must remove ``all obstacles to the free movement of goods'' including a ban on Cypriot ships unloading goods in Turkish ports and Cypriot planes landing at Turkish airports.

Cyprus joined the EU without the Turkish-speaking north because voters in the Greek-speaking southern republic rejected a United Nations-backed unification plan. The Turkish-speaking community backed the plan, prompting Ankara to blame Cyprus for the island's continuing division.

The declaration released today says EU member states support UN efforts to reach a ``comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem.''

Today's accord follows four failed attempts this month to agree on the wording of the declaration. EU diplomats on Sept. 19 broke the deadlock and the Cypriot government today withdrew a last-minute veto threat that would have prevented approval by EU governments.

The dispute interfered with EU preparations for entry negotiations with Turkey. European governments still must approve a plan covering 35 areas from customs to energy and fisheries where Turkey would have to meet the bloc's regulatory standards.

Turkey, a nation of 72 million people, is counting on the accession talks to attract record foreign investment to its $300 billion economy. It would be one of the two most populous EU nations along with Germany, and would become the bloc's first mainly Muslim member, widening the EU's borders to Iraq.

Negotiating Plan

This prospect has some politicians in nations including France and Germany urging nothing more than a ``privileged partnership.'' The demand may complicate approval of the negotiating plan.

Olli Rehn, the EU's enlargement commissioner, said national governments would have dozens of veto chances later and entry negotiations would encourage a settlement of the Cyprus problem as well as economic reforms in Turkey.

The declaration touches on the future obstacles Turkey may face, saying progress in membership talks would depend on Turkey's respect for the trade pact. Under EU accession rules, each member state has the right to prevent the start and completion of negotiations on the specific subjects, or ``chapters.''

``The opening of negotiations on the relevant chapters depends on Turkey's implementation of its contractual obligations to all member states,'' the statement says. ``Failure to implement its obligations in full will affect the overall progress in the negotiations.''



To contact the reporter on this story:
Jonathan Stearns in Brussels at jstearns2@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 21, 2005 09:40 EDT
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gabs, an interesting article but i still find it strange that tassos is concentrating on getting recognition rather than solution with talat.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well maybe he sees Turkish recognition as the solution.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabs wrote:
well maybe he sees Turkish recognition as the solution.



The solution to his dreams of making us a minority in a Greek Cypriot controlled state maybe.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabs wrote:
well maybe he sees Turkish recognition as the solution.


No doubt he sees it as the solution. A solution that meets Greek Cypriot maximal demands and puts the final stamp of legitimacy on a government that is clear unconsitituional and that rewards the illegal acts of Greek Cypriot goverments from 63 onwards - ignoring it ows supreme court, ignoring its own consitituion, allowing and encouraging irregular (and regular) armed bands of thugs to make attacks on one community etc etc.

What he should also see is that this is a pipe dream, akin to the pipe dream of enosis after 60. A pipe dream that if persued like the previous pipe dream was persued, can only bring division and conflict to Cyprus, just as the previous one had.

What Cyprus needs is an agreed solution. Trying to force Turkey to recongnise the Republic of Cyprus without a solution does nothing to futher the chances of a solution and much to undermine it. It is a waste of all the opportuniy there is today for a solution in the persuit of unrealistic maximal demands. The cyprus curse.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok

so may i ask both Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots.

will or even can Greek Cypriot ever relent from their quest for total cypriot control, which has been their ambition for hundreds if not thousands of years.

this quest imo has now become part of Greek Cypriot history culture and heritage. how can it be abandoned?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nonsense, even with recognition will Turkish Cypriot bow to papa?

Think it again. That moron is making everything wrong.

He cannot use force to Turkish Cypriot, and Economicaly, I dont know how Turkish Cypriot can get worse situation than this.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erolz wrote:

What Cyprus needs is an agreed solution. Trying to force Turkey to recongnise the Republic of Cyprus without a solution does nothing to futher the chances of a solution and much to undermine it. It is a waste of all the opportuniy there is today for a solution in the persuit of unrealistic maximal demands. The cyprus curse.


I agree with this 100%. Just like trying to force the Greek Cypriots to accept the Annan Plan w/out agreeing to it would have achieved nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are being a bit hard on Papadopoulos.Think of it from his point of view. To accept the Annan P would have been to agree to the division of the island effectively.Politically it would have been suicide.
Politics,they say,is the art of achieving what is possible.IMO we need to go beyond politics if we are to solve the problem.
What if Turkey took the initiative tomorrow and declared that she would recognise the Republic of Cyprus of the 1960 constitution. That is the one which included the Turkish Cypriots and gave them 70/30 rights.What if she said "I will pull out my troops if Papadopoulos agreed to take Talat as his vice President and 23 elected Turkish Cypriot members in Parliament?" Will the world come to an end? Will the Greek Cypriots start planning the total extermination of all Turkish Cypriots as soon as practicable,under EU supervision? Will we not be able to work out a peaceful life with our compatriots for the good of Cyprus?The EU and Turkey and Papadopoulos and Talat and Greece are playing politics with our futures at stake as Cypriots.Politics and nationalism are what brought us to where we are today.If we don't have the courage to abandon politics and nationalism we will all lose,Cyprus will lose at the end.The answer lies in all Turkish Cypriots and all Greek Cypriots realising that unless they trust and respect each other as human beings we will be the losers,not Turkey not Greece and certainly not the EU.Self determination means just that,us determining out own futures.Hanging onto the tails of our Mamma or Pappa will not bring a solution,standing on our own two feet will.The question is,do we have the guts,do we deserve to be the masters of our own fate???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birkibrisli wrote:
I think you are being a bit hard on Papadopoulos.Think of it from his point of view. To accept the Annan P would have been to agree to the division of the island effectively.Politically it would have been suicide.
Politics,they say,is the art of achieving what is possible.IMO we need to go beyond politics if we are to solve the problem.


My critism is not that he called fro a rejection of the Annan Plan, but how he is behaving since the Greek Cypriot people rejected it. It seems that trying to secure recognition from Turkey without a settlement is the sole 'strategy' of TP following the Annan Plan rejection. This to me is an unrealistic objective that does nothing to help secure an agreed settlement and much to undermine it. That is my opinion.

Birkibrisli wrote:

What if Turkey took the initiative tomorrow and declared that she would recognise the Republic of Cyprus of the 1960 constitution.


Turkey does not need to state that. It not only recognised the 1960 Republic of Cyprus but was an architect in its creation and a guarantor under the agreements that founded the Republic of Cyprus.

Birkibrisli wrote:

That is the one which included the Turkish Cypriots and gave them 70/30 rights.What if she said "I will pull out my troops if Papadopoulos agreed to take Talat as his vice President and 23 elected Turkish Cypriot members in Parliament?" Will the world come to an end? Will the Greek Cypriots start planning the total extermination of all Turkish Cypriots as soon as practicable,under EU supervision? Will we not be able to work out a peaceful life with our compatriots for the good of Cyprus?


What would happen on the issue of property in such a senario? To settlers? Would the Republic of Cyprus use police and national guard to remove Turkish Cypriot from former Greek Cypriot properties? To force settlers frpom the Island? Will the Turkish Cypriot community be expected to agree all the legislation passed by a Greek Cypriot only government between 63 to now, some of which prejudices Turkish Cypriot community rights and interests, without any negotiation?

The simple fact is that the Republic of Cyprus of the 60's does not exist and can not simply be 'returned to' as some people think. That could be a basis for negotiating a settlement I guess but much would still have to be agreed and modifed before it could happen. If this is the basis on which the Greek Cypriot side wants to negotiate a settlment then they should say so imo.

Birkibrisli wrote:

The EU and Turkey and Papadopoulos and Talat and Greece are playing politics with our futures at stake as Cypriots.Politics and nationalism are what brought us to where we are today.If we don't have the courage to abandon politics and nationalism we will all lose,Cyprus will lose at the end.The answer lies in all Turkish Cypriots and all Greek Cypriots realising that unless they trust and respect each other as human beings we will be the losers,not Turkey not Greece and certainly not the EU.Self determination means just that,us determining out own futures.Hanging onto the tails of our Mamma or Pappa will not bring a solution,standing on our own two feet will.The question is,do we have the guts,do we deserve to be the masters of our own fate???


I do not disagree with what you are saying here but trust is not something that you just decide to do. It is a function of how the 'other person' behaves. We are not doing the things necessary to build trust or the notion of a 'Cypriot Nation' (as opposed to a Greek Cypriot nation or Turkish Cypriot nation). We have never tried to build a Cypriot nation but have tried to gain our communites desires at the expense of the other community. The persuit of recognition of Republic of Cyprus by Turkey, rather than actual negotiation of a settlement is just a continuation of this persuit of one side desires imo Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The answer lies in all Turkish Cypriots and all Greek Cypriots realising that unless they trust and respect each other as human beings we will be the losers,not Turkey not Greece and certainly not the EU.Self determination means just that,us determining out own futures.Hanging onto the tails of our Mamma or Pappa will not bring a solution,standing on our own two feet will.The question is,do we have the guts,do we deserve to be the masters of our own fate???


Birkiblisi

This is the most sensible statement I have read in a long while. Not entirely sure if you are Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot, but at the end of the day we have to live together if we are to have unification.

It takes bold leaders to do what you suggest. Would the Turkish politicians, after 31 years of not accepting the Republic of Cyprus and feeding nationalistic rhetoric to its population, do a u turn and accept the Reoublic of Cyprus as laid out in the 1960 constitution? This is something they will not do of their own accord. They will have to be forced and that is why Cypriot EU membership will eventually bear fruit in that respect.
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