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cypezokyli
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| The Turks wouldn't go on killing people willy nilly for no reason and if you look at history you may see that the Ottoman's took over allot of lands (as well as Greece) for a very good reason. The world in those times were being overrun by the Christian Crusades banked by the evil masons. These murderers butchered everyone non-Xian in the Holy Lands. They were doing this in every lands they tried to take. The Muslim's at that time saw this as a threat and had to stop this, so this is why the Turk's did what they did. So then there was over 500 yrs of rule with the West living in the medeivel ages dwelling in their own faeces. Just look at the history from other perspectives and not just the crap you hear on Zionist FOX and CNN. They're full of lies and they twist the truth. |
the good old christian muslim argument has returned !
my friend you should really check your facts.
the christian - muslim divide is a creation of your imagination.
in precisely the times you mention try to check how many christians killed christians, how often the turkish tribes fought each other, and that christian muslim coalitions were not uncommon.
honestly, i dont know how people reach such conclusions .... |
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Mete
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Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Posts: 1150
Location: Boston
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| stavrizatz wrote: |
Now if I continue telling you how do If you meant the pursuit of Enosis and I don't believe you, and I continue arguing with you and start calling you names...is it frustrating yes or no? Would you apologise?
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Stavros, my point is not that Marcos meant "Turkish Cypriots out of Cyprus". My point is simply the following: Marcos said something in a group setting that mean something racist and as a famous person, he's paying the price for it. This is only normal and it happens to a lot of famous people. I understand how you might be pissed at those who might want to use this to promote how "evil" Greek Cypriots are but the fact of the matter is that it's up to Marcos to explain what he meant because he was the one that put himself in that setting. So personally I'm more mad at Marcos because if he really did not mean anything racist, he gave an "excuse" to those who might want to promote bad feelings between Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots. |
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Bananiot
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It was uncomfortable and embarrassing to watch Marcos in the clip. He was sending extremely bad messages with a sick content. I would like to point out that when our gray wolves (nationalists) call for "Turks out of Cyprus" they do not only mean the Turkish troops but Turkish Cypriots too. In fact, this is the mentality that got us into this mess in the first place.
Marcos could have been an ambassador for the whole of Cyprus, a champion for peace, adored by both T. Cypriots and G. Cypriots. Granted he is a young man of 22 and prone to mistakes. Still, I am upset and annoyed by his behaviour. I think the four young men, two Greek and two Turkish Cypriots that died in the car accident in Australia last month did wonders for Cyprus and their noble example in life and death will be cherished by all of us who believe in friendship and brotherly understanding. |
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depurple
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Mete thank God there are a few on this forum where common sense prevails over PAST History and Parental influence:
You my Friend are one of theses unique people!
Cheers and keep up the good work!
PS Don't worry about getting hammered by your own kind I get it all time:
1619 missing? Nearly half where killed by Greek Cypriot and they blame Turkey! |
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Leon
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 240
Location: England
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-Me8u4tJI
Is it him in this video? Are the translations correct ? |
Forgive me if your question has already been answered (I haven't taken a thorough look at the other responses), Baghdatis initially chants the Cypriot national anthem and then shouts "Έξω οι Τούρκοι από την Κύπρο" ("Exo i Tourki apo tin Kypro") = "Turks out of Cyprus". Don't mistake this, however, for ignorant racism; I am very confident from experience that the spoken-of "Tourki" refers to Turkish troops, rather than Turks (or Turkish Cypriots) generally. "Τούρκοι στρατιώτες" ("Tourki stratiotes") isn't very cohesive, is it.
I am very confident this is nothing but vociferous Greek Cypriot opposition to the Turkish invasion. This is a well-known chant and is often done in schools, too. |
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repulsewarrior
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| I hope the 'bad boy' learned a valuable lesson. By association he is painted as a "Greek" and even more importantly, a person who promotes intolerance. I hope the next time, there will be an opportunity for him to place "Turks" and "Greeks" of this nature squarely on a pillar where we can see that hatred has only one face, and as a Cypriot, it is not his. |
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depurple
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Bananiot
it was 2 Turkish Cypriot and 2 Greek Cypriot who died: One Greek Cypriot family had more bad luck: The oldest brother died last year from a car accident and then about 3 years ago there Uncle and his son drowned in a boating accident!
cheers
PS Remember the Greek Cypriot think that IF Turkish Troops left Cyprus we could ALL go back to our ancestral land!
The only thing stopping us is the 40,000+ M16! |
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Dimou
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Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: Melbourne
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wok= the eastern EU migrants to Australia who have been stereotyped and discriminated by the anglosaxon Australians because they would refuse to give up their traditions. |
I think you mean WOG not WOK
Wok is an oriental frying pan with a rounded base
Please bear in mind that Australia is a NEW WORLD multicultural society, predominantly comprised of the IMMIGRANT classes who usurped the native aboriginal peoples to became the ruling classes
Using ethnically divisive terms like "Anglo Saxon Australians" is utterly nonsensical, the bulk of Australian immgrants are from Celtic Socttish & Irish roots who would shiver at the "Anglo" tag
Australians are all "Australians" just as ethnically diverse immigrants from The USA are "Americans"
Australians do get very upset however by more recent immigrants who seek not to integrate as "Australians" but chose to import their inter ethnic squabbles and rivalries from their old world forefathers lands |
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100%cypriot
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Forgive me if your question has already been answered (I haven't taken a thorough look at the other responses), Baghdatis initially chants the Cypriot national anthem and then shouts "Έξω οι Τούρκοι από την Κύπρο" ("Exo i Tourki apo tin Kypro") = "Turks out of Cyprus". Don't mistake this, however, for ignorant racism; I am very confident from experience that the spoken-of "Tourki" refers to Turkish troops, rather than Turks (or Turkish Cypriots) generally. "Τούρκοι στρατιώτες" ("Tourki stratiotes") isn't very cohesive, is it.
I am very confident this is nothing but vociferous Greek Cypriot opposition to the Turkish invasion. This is a well-known chant and is often done in schools, too. |
So that is the quote that the kids are taught in schools ? Bravo re how civilised are the Greek Cypriots ?
There is never gonna be any peace in cyprus with that kind of education !!!! |
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Bananiot
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| In London the term wog is used for black people and it is a very offensive word. |
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repulsewarrior
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Mr B. long time no see...!!!
welcome. |
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Bananiot
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| Thanks, been busy in the other forum, crossing my sword with the barbarians that have learned Greek. |
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repulsewarrior
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| ..., i hope the other Mr B will join us here, as well. |
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stavrizatz
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Posts: 924
Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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| Dimou wrote: |
| I think you mean WOG not WOK |
yes i do mean wog, i think i make mistakes than any other person on this forum 
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| Please bear in mind that Australia is a NEW WORLD multicultural society, predominantly comprised of the IMMIGRANT classes who usurped the native aboriginal peoples to became the ruling classes |
I know about aus, as i said i lived there for 6-7 years. What i said is that i cannot get the steretypical wog mentality "being too proud for a motheland that they haven't really met" and believe it or not I could see more similarities with aussies than with Greek Australians. |
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city
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005
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Location: Larnaca area
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In my opinion Baghdatis needs to stand up and make clear what he meant and what his position is.
Either he is a racist or was just chanting along a group without thinking of it or whatever. An apolgy might be appropriate as well.
This ongoing discussion doesn't do any good for no one. He should be grown up enough to see that this incident is harming not only his very own reputation as a person and a Cypriot but also causes trouble on a much greater scale.
Especially under the light of his latest appointment as 'ambassador for intercultural dialogue'. I find this appointment at this very point in time absolutely disgraceful.
Also international media have noted that move of the Republic of Cyprus government with astonishment. |
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