Marcos Baghdatis in alledged racist chant incident

depurple · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:42 am Post subject:

Hey what is the problem?
The local TV supported Marcos and said after the TURKISH invasion 200,000 Greek Cypriot where displaced! Is this a lie?

Turkey kills 1,000,000 Kurds, Armenians and Pontians and Greeks and invades Cyprus during an agreed UN ceasefire and the Turkey says KEEP YOUR F*CKIN MOUTH SHUT!
What? We did what? Prove IT! Come on!?
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect

Did Baghdatis say Turkish Cypriot out of Cyprus? No! He said Turks! So if any Turks are offended BIG DEAL!
If I say Greeks out of Cyprus and I do anyway and any Greeks are offended BIG Deal again!
I did not say Greek Cypriot out of Cyprus!
Turks got offended? Bring me the tissues and the violin I am going to cry!
You Turks are like the Jews: Bombing the Shit out of the poor defenseless Palestinians and then saying to THEM! Stop the TERRORISM ?????
Who my Friend are the REAL terrorists? LET me KNOW?
As for me I always SAY Turkey and Greece out of Cyprus!
Why do I say Greece?
Because I am Cypriot my friend! And have a Cypriot passport!
BUT I know why some Turkish Cypriot where offended! They say they are Turks and I know why the settlers have been offended! Because most ARE Turks!
IF you are a true Turkish Cypriot or a Greek Cypriot you wouldn't give a toss to what Marcos said!
BUT if you have gained from the misfortunes of others????Then that is another story!
cheers and keep up the GOOD Political Diplomacy Marcos!
Let all shout kick the bastards out of Cyprus!
PS Marcos will be at my Uncle Johnny's on Sunday and I will let him know about all crap going on!
cheers
PS My Uncle Johnny is his Godfather!

stavrizatz · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:46 am Post subject:

FAMAGUSTA · Villager Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 38 Location: CYprus

erolz · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject:

Some coverage here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7195318.stm

and here

http://www.phpbb88.com/northerncyprus/viewtopic.php?mforum=northerncyprus&p=74099#74099

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject:

Khan · Deputy Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

Come off it, he was singing with the bloody Hellas Fan Club, not exactly the best place to be making a defense of Cypriotism is it?

depurple · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:

IF any person has the GUTS to TELL the world the truth about Turkeys invasion during an agreed UN ceasefire and the occupation of Greek Cypriot ancestral land until today is an ambassador for Cyprus:
I have personally told the Guys from Deep Purple, Alice Copper, Black Sabbath, Status Quo and many others!
AND will ALL land in Cyprus is returned their RIGHTFUL OWNERS!
IF this pisses the Turks and others off they only have themselves to blame for trying to sweep it under the carpet!
How many times has the Cyprus problem been shoved in Turkeys face!
Man if it was 1922 again they would butcher all the Greek Cypriot and tell the world that the Greek Cypriot where the aggressors! The Greek Cypriot where trying to invade Turkey!
And the real Hypocrisy is that Turkey want to join the EU?
And there are some clown in the EU backing them BUT we ALL know why?
cheers
PS I also supported East Timor against Indonesia and Justice prevailed with that!
AND I support the Palestinians for their homeland which is more than Turkey does! They seem to KISS Israels arse all the time!
Maybe they are on the same par?
cheers again!

Crash Test Dummy · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject:

pg · Deputy Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1485 Location: Cyprus

Khan · Deputy Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London

An extended version has been uploaded on you tube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pQyWAh9IaU

If you listen at the very end the chant "ellas kypros enosis" is clearly heard.

repulsewarrior · Deputy Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1740 Location: Canada

... i hope this is helpful...

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hDGs91hS_8cNIv7f-b4QLQnJ2DlA

... everyone has a right to their own opinion, these are sports people, and whatever their origin much can be said about the 'bad' boy image. need i explain the relavance of testosterone in this formula; it is lewd behaviour, but there is no crime.

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

Still Not Acceptable im my humble opinion

repulsewarrior · Deputy Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1740 Location: Canada

...nor mine, cent percent, (sigh)

depurple · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:42 am Post subject:

Crash Test Dummy
I hate to tell you this: Mr Gareth Evans who is the ex foreign affairs minister and I have, had many discussion on East Timor over the last 20 years and he was one of the people who help organize the UN vote for Independence!
Crash Test Dummy
I also hate to tell you this that I spoke personally (Through my connections with the Foreign affairs department) with Mr Kofi Annan the day before the vote for Independence and gave him my views that the INDONESIANS will react (Murder) to the vote and start to take revenge either directly or though there paid dogs they have in East Timor:
Crash Test Dummy
I also hate to tell you this the day the Indonesian Dogs started to massacre the poor East Timorise I spoke personally to the then Foreign Affairs Minister Mr Alexander Downer and stressed the fact Australia MUST react immediately to save lives:
Why I did this?
Because?
1: I was on the Freedom for East Timor committee with a very good Friend of mine Sheryl Shackelton who's Husband Greg was butchered by the Indonesian WAR machine!
2: I have the contacts and Indonesia remind me of Turkey and Someone has to try to help civilize these 2 military controlled false democracies:
You can also add Pakistan to this list as well!
Crash Test Dummy
YOU have NO idea who I know and who I have contacts with NO idea at all and what I Sheryl do for Cyprus behind the scenes:
Specially now with an US election in motion!
AND I am in constant contact with Mr Eddie Steven Australia's representative on Cyprus and again give my views and opinions:
cheers
PS I should add I sang in front of 10,000 Hells Angels at Broadford a few years ago Australia a few years ago with a Justice for Cyprus T SHIRT!
Maybe I am racist according to you and Erolz?
PS again I better wear the Justice for Cyprus T-Shirt back stage when I meet Sting and The Police next week? What do YOU think i should do?
Shut my mouth and HOPE Turkey give back Kyrenia?
Crash Test Dummy and Erolz just sit back and watch some great Tennis and see if you can spot me in the crowd? I will be one yelling EXO H TOPKI APO THN KYPROS!
I don't think I need to translate my good friends!!!!!!
Hey Erolz you have never been able to fool me and I know WHY YOU keep barking about Marcos BUT let the rest work it out for themselve!
Call it Weekend FOOD for Thought!
cheers

stavrizatz · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:59 am Post subject:

I have read from the many comments, a good one
"Maybe Marcos is also responsible for Hiroshima Bomb and Nagasaki"

Khan as for the political anthems sang from the hellas fun group are the following:
Hellas, Kypros, Enosis
Turks out of Cyprus
Greece, Macedonia
and few other that I cannot remember right now.
The hellas fan club is a nationalist group of migrant Greeks, including Greeks of Cyprus. Wrongly imo they were chanting political chants during before and after the games. Why you may ask, as I said it is the wok mentality.

That group was created to supportl Greek athletes in sporting events in Melbourne which is the 3rd Greek populated city in the world. They also supported Marcos and Marcos to thank them he accepted the invitation to join them at the BBQ after the Aus Open. Along with hellas fun club members there were also Marcos fans at the tennis games such as me and other friends.

Rightly or wrongly he was chanting along chants with political at his private life, after the turnaments at a friendly BBQ. Now the Turkish agencies, I believe you all know which agencies I am refering to - those professionals who search the internet to spot political discussions where they would defend Turkish positions, record speaches of politicians and other personalities of political interest and try to find something to say about it in order to achieve that. In this case they have done a good job and where did they find the video I am trying to understand.

Anyway what we need to understand is that difference of opinion does not mean racism. For example I don't see Erolz as a racist person, actually I think he is a very nice guy and I like him but we totally disagree on many issues. Just an hour ago I was with some Turkish Cypriots friends drinking at Zaphir bar and they told me "I prefer 10 greeks than one Turkish settler" and my reply was "sorry but that is also racist because you show preference based on race.

The point that I am trying to make, no one should be judged by there opinions. not to mention that Marcos did not even express an opinion, he was only chanting along to what the group was saying. If I was Marcos I would demand an apology from those that falsily accused him and attempted to destroy his reputation.