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depurple
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Boys I don't know how after so many years most are still blinded by Politics and have no clue how the wheels turns!
99.9% of all politicians are only in the interest of their own self fortunes! YOU may think they work for Turkey or Greece's interests BUT it is ONLY for their own and a few bumchum mate interests:
How do I know? Simple!
There has been no solution on Cyprus for 30+ years and most politicians on BOTH SIDES are filthy rich bastards!
To say that TPAPA works for Turkeys interests? Well maybe YES! Because Denktas certainly worked for the interests of the people of Pafos, Lanacca and Limassol:
Denktash made them ALL filthy rich!
75% of Greek Cypriot would kiss Denktash ares BUT I am not one of them! WHY? Simple! My family and I where rich pre74 and he took everything we owned in Kyrenia and sold it to the POMS for peanuts!
cheers
Q: When do you know when a politician is lying!
A: Whenever he opens his mouth to speak!
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Kifeas
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: Location: Pafos-Cyprus, since 1974 ethnic cleansing. Originally, Lapithos, northern occupied Cyprus.
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| It is indeed the greatest of vanities to try and argue on Cyprus with people that do not seem to know what they are talking about! Sorry people, no offence but unfortunately I have neither time nor appetitive to keep endlessly going circles! Call it a surrender if you so wish! |
What has Tassos Papadopoulos "achieved" in the last 4 1/2 years for Cyprus, other than bringing any solution efforts at a total stalemate while trying to divide the Cypriot people into "patriots" and "traitors"?
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Any more slogans to offer, Othellos? Keep them coming please! |
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Bananiot
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Location: Nicosia
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| Here is another slogan: You will not find proofs and receipts, but the ambient atmosphere speaks volumes. |
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Othellos
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Any more slogans to offer, Othellos? Keep them coming please! |
As Papadopoulos is now seeking his re-election for another 5 years, I thought that my question is a fair one. My criticism regarding his attempts to divide Cypriots among "patriots" and "traitors" is just as fair.
So, does mr. Tassos Papadopoulos have anything at all to offer to the people of Cyprus with respect to a solution? If he does not (which is most likely the case considering his performance so far) why does he want to waste 5 more years from our lives by being our President? |
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Bananiot
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| Othellos, it will not just be a waste of another 5 years. It will probably be the end of Cyprus and our dream for a final, long lasting solution. This is of course the reason why Christofias has decided to risk everything and challenge the hard liners who, by the way, have rejected all solution plans that were ever placed in front of us, including the London-Zurich one. |
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100%cypriot
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| Beleive it or not Talat actually wants to go down as the Turkish Cypriot leader who brought peace to cyprus, hes dieing to negotiate and he actually does want a solution, ofcourse not one that you want but he certainly does want a solution similiar to the annan plan. Paps gamble was that with EU pressure turkey will provide concessions, a legitimate gamble at the time, but with france and austria and certain other countries becoming more and more resistant to the idea of turkey joining the EU, especially after the referendums in france and Austria concerning the EU constitution, it is obvious now turkey is not entering the EU and as such it has no incentive to compromise. Around the time of the annan referndum the AKP at least did seem to beleive that they were on the verge of entering the EU, there was even talk then of it being in 5 years. Now there is no such talk and with other crisis happening in turkey, cyprus is certainly nowhere near the top of turkeys agenda. Paps if elected, will mean another 5 years of no solution for sure, that makes the partition in Cyprus up to 38 years, if we assume (and this is a big assumption) that the next Republic of Cyprus president decideds to negotiate for a solution it will take at least two years for the meetings to be set up so by then the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will have existed for 40 years, with that time frame it will be hard to reverse the situation on the ground and certainly will play in the hands of the Turkish Cypriot. Paps is certainly the best person for the Turkish Cypriot's and turkey to be elected. |
The problem with you (Turkish Cypriots) is that you wrongfully believe that you have a fair chance to ever get the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” to be recognized, without a Greek Cypriot approval and signature!
The truth though is that as the facts have (CoE reports, ECHR court decisions and UN resolutions,) and as we have managed to log Cyprus (EU and treaty of accession,) you have very little to no chance whatsoever, not now, neither in 10, 20 or even 50 years down the line! You will always need our signature or approval, and the only way you can get it is if you pass over our dead bodies!
As for the Kosovo example, this is also another futile hope they would like to spoon feed you! There is absolutely no relationship or connection between the case of Kosovo and that of Cyprus! The facts, the political and the legal merits are entirely different and unparallel!
The sad thing is that there are also Greek Cypriots that would unintentionally feed you this futile hope, when they use the case of Kosovo in order to scare-monger the Greek Cypriot public against Papadopoulos, for their own internal micro-political ambitions!
As for Talat, if you so believe he is interested in a solution, then explain to us why he is back-tracking and side-tracking for the last one whole year, on the terms and the content of the “8th of July” agreement that he himself co-signed with Papadopoulos? Who mostly wants a solution from the two, and who is the more constructive and less intransigent, is obvious from their behavior since they signed the “8th of July” agreement; and this is not Papadopoulos that your propaganda and some Greek Cypriots would like us to believe! |
Kifeas just one question , do you realy think that without recognition of the north there will be any solution ? |
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cypezokyli
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Kifeas just one question , do you realy think that without recognition of the north there will be any solution ? |
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Mete
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Location: Boston
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So, does mr. Tassos Papadopoulos have anything at all to offer to the people of Cyprus with respect to a solution? If he does not (which is most likely the case considering his performance so far) why does he want to waste 5 more years from our lives by being our President?
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I know what you mean Othellos but those with their blind love of Papadopoulos will act like they don't know what you're talking about, so stop wasting your time my friend. |
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Evagoras
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Any more slogans to offer, Othellos? Keep them coming please! |
As Papadopoulos is now seeking his re-election for another 5 years, I thought that my question is a fair one. My criticism regarding his attempts to divide Cypriots among "patriots" and "traitors" is just as fair.
So, does mr. Tassos Papadopoulos have anything at all to offer to the people of Cyprus with respect to a solution? If he does not (which is most likely the case considering his performance so far) why does he want to waste 5 more years from our lives by being our President? |
at least he will not acceppt a loose federation like the annan plan. |
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100%cypriot
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Any more slogans to offer, Othellos? Keep them coming please! |
As Papadopoulos is now seeking his re-election for another 5 years, I thought that my question is a fair one. My criticism regarding his attempts to divide Cypriots among "patriots" and "traitors" is just as fair.
So, does mr. Tassos Papadopoulos have anything at all to offer to the people of Cyprus with respect to a solution? If he does not (which is most likely the case considering his performance so far) why does he want to waste 5 more years from our lives by being our President? |
at least he will not acceppt a loose federation like the annan plan. |
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Othellos
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| at least he will not accept a loose federation like the Annan plan. |
Rejecting UN solution plans just because they are not good enough for us will never lead anywhere. We could instead try to negotiate and improve a plan. Can Tassos Papadopoulos do that? Considering how he handled the annan plan back in 2003-2004, I doubt it.
Anyway, it is most likely that Tassos Papadopoulos will never have to accept or reject anything. As long as he is the President, the international community will be extremely hesitant to come up again with another solution plan for Cyprus. |
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Dhavlos
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| at least he will not accept a loose federation like the Annan plan. |
Rejecting UN solution plans just because they are not good enough for us will never lead anywhere. We could instead try to negotiate and improve a plan. Can Tassos Papadopoulos do that? Considering how he handled the annan plan back in 2003-2004, I doubt it.
Anyway, it is most likely that Tassos Papadopoulos will never have to accept or reject anything. As long as he is the President, the international community will be extremely hesitant to come up again with another solution plan for Cyprus. |
although your right, fact of the matter is, we shouldnt be waiting for the international community to find a plan for us...we should be doing it ourselves...just our(both sides) poltiicans are to stupid to see that. |
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100%cypriot
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| No not stupid but very very clever , they have got their cake and are eating it |
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repulsewarrior
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| at least he will not accept a loose federation like the Annan plan. |
Rejecting UN solution plans just because they are not good enough for us will never lead anywhere. We could instead try to negotiate and improve a plan. Can Tassos Papadopoulos do that? Considering how he handled the annan plan back in 2003-2004, I doubt it.
Anyway, it is most likely that Tassos Papadopoulos will never have to accept or reject anything. As long as he is the President, the international community will be extremely hesitant to come up again with another solution plan for Cyprus. |
although your right, fact of the matter is, we shouldnt be waiting for the international community to find a plan for us...we should be doing it ourselves...just our(both sides) poltiicans are to stupid to see that. |
Dr. I do not despair because with all whats wrong with now, it is not natural. I have faith in our goodness, and the work which is done by ordinary people for their betterment.
In my mind, no solution will be adequate without the Free Association, Free Movement, and Free Expression that the Repuublic of Cyprus can offer us as a State, and Two (or three) National Assemblies to satisfy our desire to sustain ourselves as communities. |
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100%cypriot
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I have faith in our goodness, and the work which is done by ordinary people for their betterment.
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That is not enough to solve the Cyprob |
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