In what circumstances is war acceptable in Cyprus

brother · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject:

Come on guys, this thread has really gone to the wall, lets stick to reality rather than name calling. Wink

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

Assumption is the cause of all mistakes , i was born Cypriot , i am Cypriot and i will die Cypriot , do not expect me to lie down and roll over when me or fellow Turkish Cypriots come under attack physically or verbally , it is always easy to start the Nationalist speech when you don't like what i say .

In the UK we live under the British rule of law and order but we are not discriminated against because we are Turkish Cypriot and our Gov here does not claim that we don't exist and force embargoes on us , as the case is in Cyprus , It may be the British plan of forcing the Turkish Cypriot into submission via inhumane embargoes but this has galvanized us to fight for justice . We are galvanized to the Turkish Nation for Sparing our lives in the conflict and you will claim as does most Greek Cypriots that we were not the Target in the 1974 conflict but i beg to differ ! pointless using the word " IF " this and if that it would be a different story , yes you may see turkey as a great big bully but that great big bully beat another bully that had begun its campaign to destroy The existence of the Turkish Cypriot in Cyprus and anything resembling Turkish . So stop all this Nationalistic crap with me , If i was as much of a nationalist as you are implying then i would not be married to a Greek Cypriot !

brother · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject:

You see what we have happening here is people pushing each others buttons as such and hence the polarisation further away from each other, we really need to respect each others pain that eminated from the war in cyprus, some suffer due to loss of family, others of property and yet others of both, all these realities are truely real but what we all share in common is our forced seperation and the probable partition of our island, how can we ever truely make our comrades on the other side of the green line believe we want to live together in peace when we are intollerant to each others pain and concerns and constantly label each other as traitor, turk, greek etc. in a belittling manner which of course in turn ends with a negative reaction.

What we have imo is many people that are talking and acting in line with their sides rhetoric rather than with a shared vision, for example the Greek Cypriot want their lands back and the death of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and domination over the Turkish Cypriot as a minority, the Turkish Cypriot want independence from the Republic of Cyprus in the form of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and in large to keep most of the lands procured in 1974, while both carry merit and be right in the minds of many they are not a shared vision for the future and the stalemate will continue while we persue those unattainable goals, what we must do is realise a common vision and actively support and push it forward, what this united vision will be is yet to be decided imo.

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

you know what i don't know why i bother , this cyprob will always be US & THEM ,

brother · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject:

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

Brother your comments are as true as can get on this subject , but the seeds of partition are being planted this very moment that we speak

brother · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject:

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

The Weed can only be cut from the root so as to not allow anymore growth ! Tpap will get to power once again and he has achieved his goal in getting the south recognised by the EU

stavrizatz · Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:48 am Post subject:

100% Cypriot wrote:

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

im soory i didnt reply sooner but you did get me thinking and im not sure whether you are asking me to be a detective and find and name those that were killed , any way i will do some research and get back to you on that .

stavrizatz · Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject:

you don't need to find who was killed and by whom, all I am trying to say is that Turkish Cypriots were not threatened in 1974 by the Greek coup. The coup perhaps threatened Turkish interests but not Turkish Cypriots. It was directed towards the elected government of Makarios and his supporters. Turkey was oblidge to intervene to restore the government of the Republic of Cyprus, something that they failed to do. To justify their action they 've said that they went to Cyprus to protect Turkish Cypriots who in fact were not in danger. But I often hear Turkish Cypriots saying if Turkey didn't intervene Turkish Cypriots were going to be extinct and others even use the phrase 'Turkish Cypriots were in risk of potential genocide'!

But maybe I am wrong, maybe there is something that I don't know. So if someone can explain to me how Turkish Cypriots were in danger by the Greek coup it will be great.

repulsewarrior · Deputy Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1734 Location: Canada

The question is... did the Greek Cypriot population support the coup?

The answer is: no.

And for many, if not most. they were happy to see a Guarantor intervene. none imagined that the Turkish Army would be brutal, nor that they would remove the victims of this coup from their homes in a wholesale manner.

100%cypriot · Ministerial Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164

stavrizatz · Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: